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This makes bluffing even worse. The nutted range would go to like 45%. I give up. good luck with your standard plays

one more thing

note how you are happy to say we should adjust to overfold because you are the only one with bick dig to bluff turn and river but you are not willing to say we shouldn't be bluffing in the easiest spots for a villian to defend.

You said it was an "obvious standard bluff," because lol bottom of our range. Now you are back pedaling.

I was asking if it was a standard triple - you said it was. But it is not.

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08-12-2020 , 01:33 AM

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Shipnickle

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Originally Posted by pokerforumposter

ah yes, thinking about fold equity exclusively in terms of blockers that in this spot might change the ev by 1%. Blocking a jack isn't even bad because who in the **** folds qj and do you really think anybody who is capable of ever bluffcatching river is looking to fold JJ? It's not like JJ is close to the bottom of villians range, its in the top half. You failed to mention that all villian's bluffcatchers have excellent blockers, that villian has zero hands to snapfold except like 3 combos of spades, that you have no credit when KJ AT AJ spades and AK all missed, and that basically the only way villian folds is if he realises immediately that it's too easy for him to call way too frequently. Your discussion goes nowhere and you learn nothing except "i have a jack, therefore ...???" All you learned is that there is nothing actually useful for you to learn.

Don't know how you pick your bluff candidates but I prefer the ones with higher EV. Still don't know what your point is. Are you trying to say that your assumptions about villain is right and we should not have a bluffing range?

I'm pretty sure everyone here considers exploits. Personally I'm interested in the equilibrium strategy, which also helps me figure out if my exploits makes sense.

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08-12-2020 , 02:14 AM

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JamAdebayo

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Join Date: Apr 2020 Posts: 1,522

Can someone explain to me why flop is a 1/2 pot bet rather than a smaller size? Are we still betting range with this sizing or nah?

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08-12-2020 , 02:36 AM

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DooDooPoker

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Join Date: Mar 2018 Posts: 18,585

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Originally Posted by JamAdebayo

Can someone explain to me why flop is a 1/2 pot bet rather than a smaller size? Are we still betting range with this sizing or nah?

It's not quite a range bet (~70% frequency) but it's not some huge mistake to bet range.

Bet sizing is one of the hardest things to master. BTN has all QQ-AA and UTG doesn't, but UTG has way less combos in his 3bet calling range than BTN has in his 3betting range.

I have UTG at 51 combos vs BTN's 164 combos. So usually, when we have a nut advantage we go larger. But now we are against this super condensed range that has 99/88 at a decent frequency. So let's say UTG has 2 combos of 99 and 1 combo of 88. Well that's 3 combos out of 51, which is almost 6% of his total range. Plus TT/JJ (12 combos always) which make up closer to 30% of his range (15 of 51). And UTG never has hands like KQo/AQo. Which BTN always has.

So I think we have 2 opposing forces working against each other. The fact that UTG has a higher % of strong hands relative to his preflop range makes us want to go smaller, but then the fact that UTG never has AA-QQ makes us want to go bigger.

So we end up landing somewhere in the middle.

*Sorry had to edit to get the combos right

Last edited by DooDooPoker; 08-12-2020 at 02:46 AM.

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