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Originally Posted by ddubois
This forum is heavily 6-max online biased, in which, going broke with QQ in standard in almost any situation, at least heads up anyway. Live full-ring plays a lot more passively so there's probably more situations you can get away from it. That said, I'm not sure how to identify those situations. It's probably just a matter of experience. Ask in the full ring forums.
+1.
90% of the advice (and heckling) your post is going to elicit here is going to be way off target for the games you're playing. In 200BB+ live full ring situations, it becomes less and less mathematically correct to go broke with TPTK, overpairs, etc. If you don't learn bet sizing, SPR principles, pot commitment planning, etc. you have a leak that a lot of the regs in these games are going to exploit.
A lot of people confuse this advice as "play your one pair hands like a pussy." That's simply not true. The art of it is to be very aggressive early with these hands to figure out where you're at, while trying to not commit yourself to getting stacked when you wind up 2nd best. Against loose aggressive opponents, you'll have tough decisions to make, and those decisions get harder the deeper you're playing. In general, however, be more aggressive early; you have a pretty big gun, so fire it. Winning with QQ preflop or on the flop is fine deep stacked.
Specifically addressing your post:
I think you suffer from fancy play syndrome. You're in love with limp-raising and check raising OOP. Never limp queens in any position. Reraise liberally and frequently preflop. If someone 4bets you, consider your opponent and your table image and proceed to shove/fold/call. Never fold to a single reraise preflop (except against very specific opponents.) Lead out on the flop. If you've been pushing hard and people are still hanging around for the turn and/or river, you've got some tough decisions to make, and the art/math of pot commitment, bet sizing, check/calling, etc. become all the more important.
Good luck.