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Two WTF hands from 25NLz - Good/bad calls? Two WTF hands from 25NLz - Good/bad calls?

11-20-2018 , 02:37 PM
Just played 2 hands that for me were quite... mind-boggling. We call down big river bets with AA and KK. I felt like the AA hand is call down but not too sure about KK.. Very weird lines from Vs (take a look for yourself):

Hand 1
PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A A

fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (6.4 BB, 2 players) 2 5 J
BB checks, Hero bets 2.64 BB, BB raises to 8.4 BB, Hero calls 5.76 BB

Turn: (23.2 BB, 2 players) 9
BB bets 16.64 BB, Hero calls 16.64 BB

River: (56.48 BB, 2 players) 3
BB bets 40.44 BB, Hero calls 40.44 BB,

Thoughts on H1:

Flop check-raise: V is repping such a thin range here.. Virtually no 2 pairs in his range, and he's probably 3-betting JJ from SB? Meanwhile there are many straight/flush draws. I'm fine with calling flop and turn, however should I be calling river? Basically all of his bluffs brick here... I'm struggling to find other hands in my range with which to call 3 streets here? On the river only A4 really gets there and we double block that so.. I would also probably call on a diamond since we have the Ad blocker.


Hand 2


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has K K

fold, fold, CO raises to 2.32 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 8 BB, CO calls 5.68 BB

Flop: (16.4 BB, 2 players) 8 6 2
Hero bets 7 BB, CO calls 7 BB

Turn: (30.4 BB, 2 players) 9
Hero bets 17 BB, CO raises to 38.44 BB, Hero calls 21.44 BB

River: (107.28 BB, 2 players) T
Hero checks, CO bets 78.08 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 78.08 BB,


Thoughts on H2:


Ok so pretty standard I think until turn... Wtf is that min-raise? Then the shove on the river... I'm so sure I'm behind to a set here, but we have Kh which blocks FD's from getting there. The only other hand other than a set I could see V playing like this is 77 (but he should be raising turn bigger).

Once again I'm struggling to find other hands that would play like this and could call off a river shove? Maybe TT/ very occasionally 99?


I guess what I'm asking is whether from a theoretical standpoint I should be calling off these overpairs, and if not, what hands in my range can call this off? I can't think of many.


I'll post what V's show up with later...
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11-20-2018 , 03:21 PM
Imo, both hands had basically brick rivers. So, unless the population gives up/checks many rivers, you should decide on the turn what you will do on a brick river, facing a predictable jam from villain.

H1 I call, and would not worry about it.

H2 if I call turn raise and river is a brick, it is close. A read would be helpful. I would not fold against a lively villain.

I guess you are wondering about where your fold combo is located in your range of hands. With the SPR’s indicated, you should be defending all your 2-pairs+ and AA, imo.
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