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04-11-2021 , 05:30 AM

C4RN4Ge

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Join Date: Mar 2020 Posts: 46

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players

BTN: 128.8 BB
SB: 107.3 BB
BB: 90.3 BB
UTG: 178.4 BB
MP: 118.3 BB
Hero (CO): 105.1 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J

UTG calls 1 BB, fold, Hero raises to 4 BB, fold, SB calls 3.5 BB, BB calls 3 BB, fold

Flop: (13 BB, 3 players) 9

SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (13 BB, 3 players) K

SB checks, BB bets 7 BB, Hero calls 7 BB, fold

River: (27 BB, 2 players) 5

BB bets 12 BB

Villain is a 24/14 over 120 hands (a weak regular or a recreational player most likely)

call or fold otr?

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04-11-2021 , 06:28 AM

pjj

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Join Date: Jul 2020 Posts: 1,020

It's a definite call for me. Although your hand is a bluff catcher, it has the Kc to block the flush, as well as the K and J which block a lot of Qx. You're probably behind, but you only need to win 31% of the time.

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04-13-2021 , 07:11 AM

C4RN4Ge

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Join Date: Mar 2020 Posts: 46

I'm not sure he has 1/4 of his betting range as bluffs, I don;t see him value betting anything worse then a straight here, the board is too scary, so the question is would he turn some Ac into a bluff otr? would he even bet any Ac on the turn? not likely, I just don't see what bluffs he has here, and if he has any that's most likely not enough, can we really call here and be at least break even on a call?

Edit: I did the math wrong, we need to be good 24% of the time, still I'm not sure if he has 1/4 bluffs in his betting range

Last edited by C4RN4Ge; 04-13-2021 at 07:35 AM.

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04-13-2021 , 07:56 AM

PROPOSITION_JOE

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Join Date: Jan 2019 Posts: 889

KJo seems bit loose to be in a isolating range vs UTG limp?
AP river feels grim, villain likely has it but we dont have to right often. v close.

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04-13-2021 , 09:45 AM

21Outer

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Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 485

If this was heads up it's a definite call. I've noticed surprisingly that 4-straight boards are bluffed with a decent freq on ignition. AP theoretically it's a call, but I don't think V has enough bluffs at these stakes multi way to make this profitable. I probably just fold

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04-13-2021 , 09:56 AM

2021shipit

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Join Date: Jan 2021 Posts: 1,035

I don't even think turn is a call for me. Bets relatively big 3 ways on a 4 straight board. Better bluffcatchers are ones that can improve with more outs

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04-13-2021 , 07:16 PM

sinnaJ

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Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,458

definitely fold river even the sparse bluffs he might have OTT get there. I'd still fold without clubs getting there.
turn is already meh but I call vs recreational and expect him to show up with worse TP or 2Pair sometimes + implieds if we make our FH

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04-21-2021 , 03:31 AM

C4RN4Ge

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Join Date: Mar 2020 Posts: 46

I see, I ended up folding otr

I don't think I can fold the turn, but fold otr is likely the correct play

thank you for your feedback

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