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07-14-2019 , 05:24 PM
you should neither pure x or pure bet any of those. but i do feel with Diamond should bet more often. you really cant use gto+ for that spot because it is 3 way. that makes a huge difference. also AA are not bluff catching because you dominate "value" float bets and "value" turn probes
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07-14-2019 , 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Zuko
best Hands to cb here are mostly Hands that want to built a pot. 2p + and nut draws
Combo draw is one of our best draws and should be bet as well.
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07-14-2019 , 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Zuko
you should neither pure x or pure bet any of those. but i do feel with Diamond should bet more often. you really cant use gto+ for that spot because it is 3 way. that makes a huge difference. also AA are not bluff catching because you dominate "value" float bets and "value" turn probes
if I check AhAc and a diamond,5,6,8,T,J come on turn then I am essentially bluff catching as that texture heavily favors buttons range. I certainly cant x/r AhAc for value as I only get action from hands that are ahead or have a clear equity advantage( Td8d for example) especially since I don't have a diamond blocker. x/f is not an option either so I can only x/c. you see where im going with this?
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07-14-2019 , 05:45 PM
for a 2/3 size ( what is not optimal ) solver checks 90 % on that flop HU MP vs BTN
that means to me 3 way it is Pretty much a range check

65dd is Pretty much Always checked. it prefers betting some 65 (None Diamond)

so what are you doing when you bet AhAc , BTN calls, the turn is a Diamond , 5 , 6 , 8 , T , J ? same Problem. but pot is bigger.

anyhow … i am not trying to sell you anything. you can bet whatever makes you feel good
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07-14-2019 , 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Zuko
for a 2/3 size ( what is not optimal ) solver checks 90 % on that flop HU MP vs BTN
that means to me 3 way it is Pretty much a range check

65dd is Pretty much Always checked. it prefers betting some 65 (None Diamond)

so what are you doing when you bet AhAc , BTN calls, the turn is a Diamond , 5 , 6 , 8 , T , J ? same Problem. but pot is bigger.

anyhow … i am not trying to sell you anything. you can bet whatever makes you feel good
That's because the solver wants to protect its checking range oop and likely x/r this hand. Multiway with a probable fish in the sb it should be better to just bet our highest equity hands since sb protects us from btn just blasting off.
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07-15-2019 , 12:37 PM
protecting your checking range is not only About check raising. it is also About protecting your check call range on a Diamond , 5 , 6 , 8 , T , J any runout for that matter. That is why we mix stuff. but whatever. You dont have to x/r a Hand like that. you can. it depends on villain. if villain stabs 87 , 33 or some other random s*** to "protect" his hand you can x/r almost all your c range.
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