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04-21-2019 , 11:00 AM
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NL Holdem $0.05(BB)
HJ ($5.42) [VPIP: 20% | PFR: 20% | AGG: 100% | 3-Bet: 0% | Hands: 6]
CO ($5.46) [VPIP: 21.6% | PFR: 9.3% | AGG: 41.5% | 3-Bet: 2.6% | Hands: 99]
BTN ($5.18) [VPIP: 23.3% | PFR: 16% | AGG: 31.2% | 3-Bet: 6.4% | Hands: 709]
SB ($4.53) [VPIP: 11.1% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 33.3% | 3-Bet: 0% | Hands: 9]
BB ($9.44) [VPIP: 24.9% | PFR: 20.9% | AGG: 33% | 3-Bet: 7.6% | Hands: 2442]
HERO ($5.61) [VPIP: 26.4% | PFR: 22.2% | AGG: 32.6% | 3-Bet: 10.9% | Hands: 52789]

Dealt to Hero: 7 A

HERO Raises To $0.11, HJ Folds, CO Calls $0.11, BTN Folds, SB Folds, BB Folds

Hero SPR on Flop: [18.45 effective]
Flop ($0.29): A Q 4
HERO Checks, CO Bets $0.14 (Rem. Stack: 5.21), HERO Calls $0.14 (Rem. Stack: 5.36)

Turn ($0.57): A Q 4 7
HERO Checks, CO Bets $0.41 (Rem. Stack: 4.80), HERO ?
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04-21-2019 , 11:34 AM
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raise the turn. you are OP, he can have many draws
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04-21-2019 , 11:35 AM
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Call. We have a decent hand but I don't think it's enough to x/r as that will flush out a lot of bluffs he could have as well as weaker aces. Probably x/c most rivers as well.
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04-21-2019 , 12:43 PM
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call, raise if 7 is a spade.
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04-21-2019 , 01:05 PM
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Call sometimes, raise sometimes... I think I'd choose this exact spot to x-c because of V's stats, he's tight passive and looking at his 3-bet % even if the sample is small I'd guess he has at least many AQ combos if not all of them so makes sens to x-r vs people who 3-bet pre with that, they're not too tough to find. Also I don't think we want that many bluffs if any, checking draws on the flop seems a little too fancy in general.
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04-22-2019 , 01:55 AM
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call, raise if 7 is a spade.
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04-22-2019 , 04:26 PM
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100% call
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04-22-2019 , 04:34 PM
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100% call
Why do you like calling? Is this to protect our calling range?
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04-22-2019 , 04:39 PM
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I want to bluffcatch rivers with this combo
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04-22-2019 , 05:23 PM
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raiiiiise and shove most river inec
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04-22-2019 , 05:31 PM
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raiiiiise and shove most river inec
solid advice

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NL Holdem $0.05(BB)
HJ ($5.42) [VPIP: 53.8% | PFR: 23.1% | AGG: 40% | 3-Bet: 12.5% | Hands: 14]
CO ($5.46) [VPIP: 22.9% | PFR: 10.4% | AGG: 32.9% | 3-Bet: 6.2% | Hands: 233]
BTN ($5.18) [VPIP: 23.4% | PFR: 16.4% | AGG: 30.1% | 3-Bet: 6.9% | Hands: 836]
SB ($4.53) [VPIP: 23.1% | PFR: 5.8% | AGG: 32% | 3-Bet: 0% | Hands: 53]
BB ($9.44) [VPIP: 24.7% | PFR: 20.6% | AGG: 33.7% | 3-Bet: 7.6% | Hands: 2569]
HERO ($5.61) [VPIP: 26.4% | PFR: 22.2% | AGG: 32.6% | 3-Bet: 10.8% | Hands: 53312]

Dealt to Hero: 7 A

HERO Raises To $0.11, HJ Folds, CO Calls $0.11, BTN Folds, SB Folds, BB Folds

Hero SPR on Flop: [18.45 effective]
Flop ($0.29): A Q 4
HERO Checks, CO Bets $0.14 (Rem. Stack: 5.21), HERO Calls $0.14 (Rem. Stack: 5.36)

Turn ($0.57): A Q 4 7
HERO Checks, CO Bets $0.41 (Rem. Stack: 4.80), HERO Raises To $1.80 (Rem. Stack: 3.56), CO Raises To $4.91 (Rem. Stack: 0.30), HERO Raises To $5.36 (allin), CO Calls $0.30 (allin)

River ($11.14): A Q 4 7 K

Spoiler:

CO shows: A Q

CO wins: $10.45
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04-22-2019 , 05:51 PM
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fold to the turn shove fish!
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04-22-2019 , 07:47 PM
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The reason you raise turn is because people don't bluff enough. Then you decide to call off with probably your worse value-raising hand when villain risks 4.5 to win 2.60. Bad!
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04-22-2019 , 09:19 PM
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The reason you raise turn is because people don't bluff enough. Then you decide to call off with probably your worse value-raising hand when villain risks 4.5 to win 2.60. Bad!
You raise ->fold turn? So Villain can't have a combo draw or A4s?
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04-22-2019 , 09:40 PM
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Raising turn vs a 23/10 seems better than calling.

Checking the flop with top pair vs the same 23/10 seems like a pretty big mistake though.
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04-22-2019 , 09:51 PM
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You raise ->fold turn? So Villain can't have a combo draw or A4s?
wat?
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04-22-2019 , 11:50 PM
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Raising turn vs a 23/10 seems better than calling.

Checking the flop with top pair vs the same 23/10 seems like a pretty big mistake though.
solid troll
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04-22-2019 , 11:51 PM
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solid troll
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04-23-2019 , 07:41 AM
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solid troll
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You should absolutely bet this flop vs weak passive opponents.
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04-23-2019 , 08:44 AM
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You should absolutely bet this flop vs weak passive opponents.
You said checking the flop is a pretty big mistake. How?

1) We aren't getting 3 streets of value with this hand on most run outs.

2) 23/10 is TIGHT
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04-23-2019 , 09:13 AM
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You said checking the flop is a pretty big mistake. How?

1) We aren't getting 3 streets of value with this hand on most run outs.

2) 23/10 is TIGHT
Range manipulation. A tight passive is usually going to call wider than he bets, so we are doing much better vs his calling range than we are vs his betting range and we don't miss value from all the stuff in his range that will call but doesn't bet.

Look at how much Qx and middle pairs a 23% vpip with a 6% 3bet has in his range. There aren't that many combos of Ax that beat us given that we block Ax, whereas there is a bunch of Qx in it that we don't block. You don't think he has at minimum KQo, QJ, QTs, Q9s, A6s, A5s, A3s, A2s, 99, 88, 77, 66? How much of that do you think he bets when we check to him? How much of that folds to one bet?
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04-23-2019 , 09:30 AM
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Range manipulation. A tight passive is usually going to call wider than he bets, so we are doing much better vs his calling range than we are vs his betting range and we don't miss value from all the stuff in his range that will call but doesn't bet.

Look at how much Qx and middle pairs a 23% vpip with a 6% 3bet has in his range. There aren't that many combos of Ax that beat us given that we block Ax, whereas there is a bunch of Qx in it that we don't block. You don't think he has at minimum KQo, QJ, QTs, Q9s, A6s, A5s, A3s, A2s, 99, 88, 77, 66? How much of that do you think he bets when we check to him? How much of that folds to one bet?
All the hands you listed I get 1 street of value from or 2 streets max. I agree he will call more than he bets. But I'm not getting 3 streets of value from Qx ever. It's possible bet/bet/x or bet/x/bet line is better but the EV difference is probably marginal.

Saying something is a big mistake implies there is a clear better alternative. Checking or betting flop both have merits and should just be a mixed strategy.
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04-23-2019 , 09:34 AM
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All the hands you listed I get 1 street of value from or 2 streets max. I agree he will call more than he bets. But I'm not getting 3 streets of value from Qx ever. It's possible bet/bet/x or bet/x/bet line is better but the EV difference is probably marginal.

Saying something is a big mistake implies there is a clear better alternative. Checking or betting flop both have merits and should just be a mixed strategy.
Not OOP vs a fish. If you are only going to get 1 or 2 streets ( i disagree, if he is passive he might be sticky) then there is no reason not to take that value immediately. Why give him a free card to improve? We don't need to balance our range vs this guy so value betting will always be significantly higher ev then bluff catching.

Mixed strategies are for solid regs, ABC is for handling fish.
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