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04-21-2019 , 05:56 AM
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NL Holdem $0.25(BB)
HERO ($34.09) [VPIP: 23% | PFR: 16.7% | AGG: 26.2% | 3-Bet: 8.6% | Hands: 218275]
SB ($24.75) [VPIP: 35.3% | PFR: 5.9% | AGG: 42.3% | 3-Bet: 0% | Hands: 34]
BB ($32.08) [VPIP: 35.9% | PFR: 28.2% | AGG: 55% | 3-Bet: 17.6% | Hands: 39]
UTG ($92.25) [VPIP: 27.7% | PFR: 21.3% | AGG: 55.4% | 3-Bet: 7.6% | Hands: 198]
HJ ($47.51) [VPIP: 30.7% | PFR: 20.3% | AGG: 24.3% | 3-Bet: 13.2% | Hands: 197]
CO ($24.5) [VPIP: 20% | PFR: 10.9% | AGG: 14.3% | 3-Bet: 0% | Hands: 57]

Dealt to Hero: J J

UTG Raises To $0.75, HJ Folds, CO Folds, HERO Raises To $2.35, SB Folds, BB Folds, UTG Calls $1.60

Hero SPR on Flop: [6.29 effective]
Flop ($5.05): 2 9 9
UTG Checks, HERO Bets $1.12 (Rem. Stack: 30.62), UTG Calls $1.12 (Rem. Stack: 88.78)

Turn ($7.29): 2 9 9 5
UTG Checks, HERO Bets $2.37 (Rem. Stack: 28.25), UTG Raises To $7.35 (Rem. Stack: 81.43), HERO Calls $4.98 (Rem. Stack: 23.27)

River ($21.99): 2 9 9 5 6
UTG Bets $81.43 (allin), HERO ??

I still have a **** ton of strength in range, like this paired board is bone dry, I call turn c/r vs this active player. River seems quite bad, if he was checkraising a gutshot, he just got showdown value with some combos, completed straights with others, and could conceivably play a club draw this way. I am trying to find a lot of bluffs for opponent on the river, and seems like he would have to turn a random A / K high 1 club hand that floated flop and c/r turn with the intention of bombing river, or a pair that for some random reason decides to go insane. These spots are so annoying especially because people spaz so hard against small bets.

Last edited by amazin lazer; 04-21-2019 at 06:06 AM.
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04-21-2019 , 08:24 AM
A tricky regular can be uncapped on the flop. Why is your flop be so small? Do we gain something by betting 22% that we don't get betting 35%? I think it's possible you've induced with your small flop and turn sizes but who knows.

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04-21-2019 , 01:23 PM
do you really think this guy is raising 86s or 87s UTG and then calling a pf 3bet OOP? i dont really think those are part of his range tbh. If you find that people spaz out because of your betsizing then you are obv doing it to induce. If you find these spots to difficult why not adjust your sizing to where people dont start bluffing you and put you in a difficult spot? He could very well be turning AK, AQ, KQ into a bluff. But he can also be vbettign us with a flush, higher pair, full or quads. Given how aggro this guy is though i call it of.

Btw, are you always 3betting JJ vs an utg?
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04-21-2019 , 02:48 PM
more flop

and more turn
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04-21-2019 , 02:58 PM
agreed sizings are bad postflop, 35% otf, 70-75 ott.
we don't need to be worried about UTG having 9x too often OOP in 3bp.
AP fold riv. What does he have for bluffs, A3/4dd??
This line is most often the nuts which are afraid Hero will XB river after using these small sizings on flop and turn.
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04-22-2019 , 04:11 PM
Pre-flop I think calling is preferred with this effective stack size, ~140BB.

Would play: 33-35% on flop, 70-80% on turn.

Q: do you bet 100% of your range on this board texture?

I have gone broke in these spots a couple of times and would fold river as played and do so in these spots. All to often we are beaten by a stronger hand.
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04-23-2019 , 02:38 AM
Thankyou for the responses!

Alright, so, vs this particular opponent, I decided to 3-bet, can flat vs UTG as well, I am fine with the 3-bet, don't think it's printing, just OK.

Flop I mis-applied some theory, as I want to bet my entire range here, so I chose a very small sizing. I did intentionally do this in the moment, but I have a bad habit of over-complicating strategy, I think at this stake, and even higher, I should be looking to simplify strategy where I can, this board texture I can effectively range c-bet with a bigger sizing, 33% looks good.

Turn is the biggest mistake of hand, I should have sized up, although the board is not very dynamic, I still want to price out some draws, give my bluffs a decent likelihood of success, and get some value against villain / actually protect my jacks, as they are vulnerable here despite the dry board. As Simple said, tricky regs are still uncapped here, so if money starts getting shoveled into the pot, I am not loving it, but am not folding to 1 raise.

River, I kind of put myself in the dumpster by betting so small on turn and leaving so much behind facing a checkraise. I think that this is a fold, and I am generally pretty good at making disciplined laydowns, so I did fold this, went back later to look at the hand, and lo an behold I was bluffed! villain had A3dd, so good on him, he correctly read my hand, and put the screws to me. We had a bit of a dynamic going in almost this exact same spot, he had earlier check raised me with a gutshot and fired twice, and then gave up on the river, and I took it down with bottom pair in a similar "you're full of ****, no you're full of ****" kind of dry board situation. I think that he was sophisticated enough to know that I knew that he gave up earlier, and that he would get more credit with the follow through here.

I should table select a little better generally.
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