So, here is the hand that cost me dearly today. Yes, I know, just 5$ but damn, now I am down quite a bit.

PokerStars Zoom Hand #177245427340: Hold'em No Limit ($0.02/$0.05) - 2017/10/22 14:02:38 ET

Table 'Hyakutake' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: LrmgGod ($5.24 in chips)
Seat 2: sm0cke ($5 in chips)
Seat 3: altertan ($10.14 in chips)
Seat 4: KaReFi ($5.18 in chips)
Seat 5: Kakadu 38 ($3.03 in chips)
Seat 6: daabr934 ($5 in chips)
Seat 7: 777zloba777 ($5.30 in chips)
Seat 8: ateist177 ($5.66 in chips)
Seat 9: z0p12000 ($2.40 in chips)
sm0cke: posts small blind $0.02
altertan: posts big blind $0.05

Pre Flop: So, I see 86s and I am about to fold, when I see a limp and a raise and a call, so I thought I may get a decend group to play my one-gappers against, and I am in position. Thought about rasing, but I though at least one will 4bet me and I wanted to play these as a draw I can let go.

MP has 16/6 VPIP/PFR, MP+1 has 23/21, MP+2 11/0 (not enough data)

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Hero has [6c 8c]

UTG: folds
UTG+1: folds
MP: calls $0.05
MP+1: raises $0.17 to $0.22
Villain: calls $0.22
CO: folds
Hero: calls $0.22
SB: folds
BB: folds
MP: calls $0.17

*** FLOP *** [Js 3c 8h]
MP: checks
MP+1: checks
Villain: bets $0.46
Heor: calls $0.46

MP: folds
MP+1: folds

So the flop comes and I have middle pair and some back door stuff. I thought he might try to take the pot down wiuth that bet, but it was only half sized and I did not want to folp middle pair on that flop to one single bet.

*** TURN *** [Js 3c 8h] [8s]
Villain: checks
Hero: bets $0.25
Villain: raises $0.50 to $0.75
Hero: calls $0.50

So, another 8 comes up and I hit trips. He checks, so I think I was correct with the bluff on the turn. I make a small bet for value and hope he calls, and he raises. I think he tries another bluff and thinks me weak, and just call. Maybe I could have raised here to get it all in already, but thought he might be more willing to call another small bet on the river.

*** RIVER *** [Js 3c 8h 8s] [Td]
Villain: bets $3.23
Her: raises $0.58 to $3.81 and is all-in
Villain: calls $0.58

So a 10 comes up and he fires. I think he has J10, maybe AJ or Kj. Q9 is possible, but that would have been a really agressive play, maybe Q9s with a flush draw. 33? Maybe, would fit the betting but calling from his position pre flop.. not sure. So I throw in the few quids over his bet and he shows:

*** SHOW DOWN ***
Hero: shows [6c 8c] (three of a kind, Eights)
Villain: shows [Jc Jh] (a full house, Jacks full of Eights)
Villaincollected $10.53 from pot

JJ... never would have given him that. Cold Call pre flop, cb the turn... got me. Any chance I could have laid down the trips here? I know calling pre flop was a bit lose, but you don't get to play the SC in position at ZOOM tables that often...and it was not that expensive pre flop

Betting $.25 into $1.87 w/~$4.50 behind...come on.

Fold flop.
Fold turn.
Fold river.

Fold Flop, okay.
But fold turn? The 0,25ct into 1,87 was because I encounter a Lot of ppl who will drop antything to a bet, even if its 50% or less. So, 0,25 into 1,87, beeing reraised to 0,75 and I fold the trips?

So, how would you have played the turn, if you chose to play the hand any further? Check?

Folding would narrow the hands to play any further to the nuts/second nuts, correct? So, let the flop go expcept its close to the nuts?

Trying to learn here ^^

Here's my take if you want to learn.

What isolated was getting at was that you shouldn't have found yourself in that spot because you should have folded preflop. He didn't mean you should fold the turn in the spot you were in, just that you shouldn't have put yourself in that spot.

It is a fold preflop for sure. If you want to play a suited connector in that spot, I can get behind it but you will lose money long term playing one gappers there.

After that, the flop call is fine. The turn bet is fine except the size. If he has a jack or an overpair or anything of value he is going to call a regular size bet. If he folds, then that's fine, he had nothing and you probably weren't getting more out of him anyways. That's the problem, you were afraid of losing your customer but you are leaving value behind when you are ahead by betting so small. You were going to lose here. It's a cooler but one that could have been avoided preflop.

His turn check is pretty standard after filling up on the turn, hoping for you to improve on the river or bluff it off. Also, your last line "it was not that expensive preflop" is classic. Calling that 4.5 BB raise cost you your stack.

I know, it was an error.

Just hit another brick wall. Was on tilt there and missplayed the Flop, but did not matter anyway. Maybe a bigger raise pre flop? The Jack on the turn was enough for me to be scared by draws to the straight, but I thought that Q9 was unlikely. Thought about a normal raise, but there were already 3,55$ in the pot, so I though I shove.

Thought they had sth like JJ, QQ, KK or QJ. JT was possible, but well.... messed up again I guess

Fold pre or fold flop, when the trips hit you cannot fold.

This is the 6max forum OP. Full ring has its own forum (albeit with a lot less activity).

As an aside: 5nl full ring zoom is full of set-mining nits. If they raise post-flop your one pair hands are usually no good (also nobody ever bluffs rivers so don't call down light either).

No, that's not what I was saying.

We've got a flush draw along with the 8 so we aren't folding flop. Can argue for raising there since your flush draw is weak but your other outs are well disguised.

Everything else is kind of nonsense given that turn bet though.

*** FLOP *** [Js 3c 8h]

I read that like five times and it was the Jc, I swear.