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04-28-2021 , 09:51 AM

pjj

adept

Join Date: Jul 2020 Posts: 1,020

What are you doing vs this river raise? And, what does your calling range include here? Villain is 28/20/8 after 892 hands.

PokerStars - $0.16 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB
SB: 110.13 BB
BB: 181.13 BB
UTG: 87.5 BB
MP: 142.31 BB
Hero (CO): 172.13 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q

fold, MP raises to 2.5 BB, Hero raises to 8 BB, fold, fold, fold, MP calls 5.5 BB

Flop: (17.5 BB, 2 players) 4

MP checks, Hero bets 5.5 BB, MP calls 5.5 BB

Turn: (28.5 BB, 2 players) 4

MP checks, Hero checks

River: (28.5 BB, 2 players) 7

MP checks, Hero bets 20 BB, MP raises to 53.63 BB ???

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04-28-2021 , 10:17 AM

poskid

journeyman

Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 313

Don't check the turn. Bet the 20BB there. Probably check behind the river then. Not really looking to get 3 streets of value with this hand.

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04-28-2021 , 11:54 AM

ionutd

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 13,624

bigger flop
x turn good or bet small
no way I fold river vs that size

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04-28-2021 , 11:58 AM

21Outer

grinder

Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 485

I bet 75% otf & ott, check back otr

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04-28-2021 , 03:41 PM

TheWhoWhat

journeyman

Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 352

There's just no way this is a bluff. This line is always a full house type nutted hand versus a guy with those stats.

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04-28-2021 , 04:30 PM

AlanBostick

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Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 11,490

We are pretty much at the bottom of our river value-betting range. Leaving aside the population read that this spot is significantly underbluffed, it is hard for me to see what combos the villain can bluff with, unless they are willing to hands like 55 or 88 into bluffs -- and, again, I don't think the population has this in their collective wheelhouse.

We need to win at least one time in four to call profitably here. I am dubious that we are that good. I would fold and not worry about it.

ETA: Also note that the only nutted combo we block is the one remaining combo of JJ.

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04-29-2021 , 06:25 AM

pjj

adept

Join Date: Jul 2020 Posts: 1,020

Thanks for the feedback! Looking at this, not quite sure why I went small otf, but I wouldn't usually. I think I agree that I can't get 3 streets of value here, which was my rationale for the turn check, although I think betting turn may work pretty well too. I did go for the fold, and I was worried it was a little nitty on my part, so glad some people did agree with my decision, as I'm not sure it was best. I was struggling to see what villain's natural bluffs were here, but also the value range felt like it had to have been fairly strong slow plays.

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