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09-18-2020 , 12:18 AM

DooDooPoker

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NL Holdem 0.10(BB)
BTN ($14.02) [VPIP: 50% | PFR: 50% | AGG: 66.7% | Flop Agg: 0% | Turn Agg: 100% | River Agg: 100% | 3-Bet: 0% | 4-Bet: 0% | Hands: 3]
SB ($10) [VPIP: 19.7% | PFR: 16.2% | AGG: 41.9% | Hands: 118]
HERO ($16.06) [VPIP: 24.5% | PFR: 21.4% | AGG: 35.3% | Flop Agg: 41.1% | Turn Agg: 28.6% | River Agg: 31.8% | 3-Bet: 10.8% | Fold to 3-Bet: 56% | 4-Bet: 16.4% | Hands: 310609]
UTG ($13.97) [VPIP: 40% | PFR: 20% | AGG: 66.7% | Hands: 5]
HJ ($19.28) [VPIP: 28.6% | PFR: 28.6% | AGG: 100% | Hands: 7]
CO ($10.07) [VPIP: 17.5% | PFR: 12.4% | AGG: 27.2% | Hands: 812]

Dealt to Hero: 9

UTG Folds, HJ Folds, CO Folds, BTN Raises To $0.22, SB Folds, HERO Raises To $1.06, BTN Calls $0.84

Hero SPR on Flop: [5.97 effective]
Flop ($2.17): J

HERO Bets $0.74 (Rem. Stack: $14.26), BTN Calls $0.74 (Rem. Stack: $12.22)

Turn ($3.65): J

HERO Checks, BTN Bets $2.08 (Rem. Stack: $10.14), HERO Calls $2.08 (Rem. Stack: $12.18)

River ($7.81): J

HERO Checks, BTN Bets $10.14 (allin), HERO Calls $10.14

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09-18-2020 , 04:31 AM

meale

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Bet the turn!!!! He will not fold jx or fds and will oft xb. If checking turn jam.

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09-18-2020 , 05:00 AM

amazin lazer

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definitely check shoving the turn as a default if checking, this is a relatively dynamic board, we're quite happy to charge high equity draws / try to stack Jx / inferior sets

quite a weird stack size situation due to ip's sizing on turn tho lol, still x/shoving

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09-18-2020 , 05:16 AM

ChipsNcrisps

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only discussion point is raise sizing ott imo

I think 35% > allin but realistically we need two sizings here

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09-18-2020 , 05:52 AM

meale

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Originally Posted by ChipsNcrisps

only discussion point is raise sizing ott imo

I think 35% > allin but realistically we need two sizings here

I think if we xr turn jam is better as almost all of the draws are gutters/combos/nut and very few naked draws and thus think 35 is never going to make such an IP range troubled.

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09-18-2020 , 08:38 AM

wacker1913

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betting air - checking nuts :-)

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09-18-2020 , 09:15 AM

sixsevenoff

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Originally Posted by wacker1913

betting air - checking nuts :-)

I noticed this trend, too, and I'm very confused.

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09-18-2020 , 09:20 AM

newguyhere

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Originally Posted by wacker1913

betting air - checking nuts :-)

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Originally Posted by sixsevenoff

I noticed this trend, too, and I'm very confused.

Dang you guys beat me to it.

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09-18-2020 , 11:44 AM

nortstink

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I can't see any real benefit to just check calling the turn. If we check, surely we gotta be raising. Or just bet yourself.

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09-18-2020 , 12:10 PM

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JohnRusty

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Originally Posted by newguyhere

Dang you guys beat me to it.

I think DDP does normal lines pretty often too, but doesn't bother posting them. DDP's agg stats aren't ridiculous

But yeah without looking at a solver I think this hand is too good and the board too dynamic to x/c. Although at the same time it's not like we have any two pairs here besides some (mixed frequency?) J9s and 54s, so I see where you're coming from, from a GTO perspective. Gotta have some strong hands to x/c turn with.

But idk my NLHE game is a bit rusty (ha!), I've been playing too much 6-card PLO

Last edited by JohnRusty; 09-18-2020 at 12:19 PM.

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09-18-2020 , 01:14 PM

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DooDooPoker

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So in theory I know I should be betting big OTF here but since it seems a general consensus that pop plays worse vs small cbets I decided to cbet small.

OTT - what are our best hands to x/c to protect our x/c range OTR?

A few reasons I didn't XR turn:

1) I have a diamond in my hand which makes FD's less likely
2) I unblock all his floats OTF so I thought he was pretty weak OTT

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09-18-2020 , 01:30 PM

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DooDooPoker

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Okay well according to the solver I always X JJ/99 OTT but if I do face a bet I always XR 99 but always x/c JJ. That makes sense.

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