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12-01-2019 , 02:23 AM

DooDooPoker

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Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD Poker HUD and Database Software

NL Holdem $0.10(BB)
BTN ($17.18) [VPIP: 22.1% | PFR: 14.7% | AGG: 35.7% | 3-Bet: 10% | Hands: 69]
SB ($17.92) [VPIP: 45.4% | PFR: 19.9% | AGG: 36.2% | 3-Bet: 5.9% | Hands: 265]
BB ($3.72) [VPIP: 33.3% | PFR: 16.7% | AGG: 0% | 3-Bet: 0% | Hands: 6]
UTG ($32.37) [VPIP: 24.6% | PFR: 22.1% | AGG: 48.3% | 3-Bet: 17.1% | Hands: 125]
HJ ($3.67) [VPIP: 24.5% | PFR: 16.8% | AGG: 20.7% | 3-Bet: 6.6% | Hands: 145]
HERO ($10.00) [VPIP: 26.1% | PFR: 22.3% | AGG: 32.5% | 3-Bet: 11.1% | Hands: 144919]

Dealt to Hero: A

UTG Folds, HJ Folds, HERO Raises To $0.28, BTN Calls $0.28, SB Folds, BB Folds

Hero SPR on Flop: [13.69 effective]
Flop ($0.71): 2

HERO Bets $0.25 (Rem. Stack: 9.47), BTN Calls $0.25 (Rem. Stack: 16.65)

Turn ($1.21): 2

HERO Bets $0.90 (Rem. Stack: 8.57), BTN Calls $0.90 (Rem. Stack: 15.75)

River ($3.01): 2

HERO Bets $2.25 (Rem. Stack: 6.32), BTN Raises To $9.76 (Rem. Stack: 5.99), HERO ?

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12-01-2019 , 02:32 AM

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When our strong hands are susceptible to being outdrawn on
later streets, we may choose to use a descending bet sizing
structure. That is, by betting bigger on earlier streets, we make
sure our opponent puts more money into the pot when he’s behind
if he wants to try to outdraw us.

ANLHE, Mathew Janda, Page 94

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12-01-2019 , 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by dubakkur2

ANLHE, Mathew Janda, Page 94

That sounds like playing your hand and not your range.

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12-01-2019 , 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by DooDooPoker

That sounds like playing your hand and not your range.

i am not expert like u or janda, but your thread title referred to a particular hand not a range

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12-01-2019 , 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by dubakkur2

i am not expert like u or janda, but your thread title referred to a particular hand not a range

I'm not an expert at all. I play 10NL. No one that plays microstakes is an expert.

But what you are suggesting is to vary your bet sizes based on the strength of your hand. Which is not advisable.

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12-01-2019 , 03:30 AM

whitemares

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Villain has exactly 77 for value (I expect villains at this level to raise 33 otf, if they even call with it pre), so I guess it's a matter of how many spade and diamond draws villain gets to the river with. Blocking both of them isn't ideal.

The rest seems good

edit: and honestly I only expect a handful of the most aggressive regs to pull a huge river bluff like that. I'd be more inclined to call if it was such a reg that you have history with

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12-01-2019 , 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by DooDooPoker

I'm not an expert at all. I play 10NL. No one that plays microstakes is an expert.

But what you are suggesting is to vary your bet sizes based on the strength of your hand. Which is not advisable.

not me, Janda !

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12-01-2019 , 03:50 AM

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I folded but I think 77 is spot on. Or maybe I just got owned.

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12-01-2019 , 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by DooDooPoker

I'm not an expert at all. I play 10NL. No one that plays microstakes is an expert.

But what you are suggesting is to vary your bet sizes based on the strength of your hand. Which is not advisable.

Are you saying the solver doesnt vary bet size based on the strength of particular hands?

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12-01-2019 , 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by yasuo

Are you saying the solver doesnt vary bet size based on the strength of particular hands?

I'm sure solvers use multiple sizing's OTF for various parts of its range but this is very hard to implement in real time. That's why you should mostly have one sizing for specific boards. I use 1/3 sizing on high low low boards.

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12-01-2019 , 08:28 AM

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Villain's value range is super thin, I mean we heavily block A2s and he's supposed to raise at some frequencies 33 OTF/OTT, so it basically comes down to 77.
I think I'd still randomize a call here with AA otherwise what the hell are we going to call with?

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12-01-2019 , 08:51 AM

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Maybe we fold with the As :-?

Range cb is fine otf. And this is not a very drawy board... fds are possible but my belief is that Janda's quote is being missinterpreted in this context.

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12-01-2019 , 10:51 AM

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Fold seems oke. We block a lot of possible bluffs.
Janda is talking how you should play your range not just one hand on that type on board texture but this is not that type of board.

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12-01-2019 , 01:36 PM

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pretty sure janda also confirms take the highest ev line with each individual hand in your range = gto or balance for your entire range anyways

im betting bigger in earlier streets or maybe just on the turn, as played folding

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12-01-2019 , 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DooDooPoker

That sounds like playing your hand and not your range.

same thing

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12-01-2019 , 03:11 PM

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Hmm, how often does 77 call reasonable turn c-bet on K-high board? Not every time shirley.

River seems too neutral to fold.

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12-01-2019 , 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Ceres

Hmm, how often does 77 call reasonable turn c-bet on K-high board? Not every time shirley.

River seems too neutral to fold.

Certainly a fair amount on a K322 texture, it’s not like it’s KQ84 or something

And if it’s “too neutral” then wouldn’t either calling or folding be reasonable?

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12-01-2019 , 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Ceres

Hmm, how often does 77 call reasonable turn c-bet on K-high board? Not every time shirley.

River seems too neutral to fold.

77 can make it to river as second best pair
22 and 33 are also possible in his range as reasonable set mines in position
A2s is also maybe in his range
maybe k7s
V is quite unknown but he is deep so will tend not to play like this also Kx hands should be calling river if he is trying to beat missed flush draws no point in raising that

you would have to be very aggressive to make this play without a nutted hand and it is 10NL so folding is the better play imo, not making the call against unknown

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12-01-2019 , 05:11 PM

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I think calling here with A

specifically is reasonable. Blocking all A2s combos and unblocking the FD.

Hands like this are brutal though because Aces are so pretty.

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12-01-2019 , 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DooDooPoker

I think calling here with A

specifically is reasonable. Blocking all A2s combos and unblocking the FD.

Yeah this. He probably did just have 77, likely with no spade, though. People seem completely unable to bluff-shove rivers. I actually am having a hard time putting any bluffs in his range on this runout. Missed FD's just fold here, they don't shove over.

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12-01-2019 , 05:53 PM

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I am starting to take the approach that they are not bluffing unless I have seen specific evidence that they are capable of bluffing like this. It's tough but I would just fold. I am starting to center my notes around bluffs and weird lines I have witnessed.

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12-01-2019 , 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by GodforsakenDwan

pg95

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A common misconception players have is the belief that they
need to have one specific bet sizing with their entire range in each
particular spot. This is not the case. It’s possible to have several
different bet sizings in the same spot where each range is
balanced.

pg25-entire section

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An Optimal Player AlwaysTakes the Most +EV Line

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Originally Posted by antneye

I am starting to take the approach that they are not bluffing unless I have seen specific evidence that they are capable of bluffing like this. It's tough but I would just fold. I am starting to center my notes around bluffs and weird lines I have witnessed.

when you hear hoof beats think horses; not zebras

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12-01-2019 , 08:14 PM

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I think turn is a clear overbet. You should just be overbetting a ton on this turn. Then jam river. If he has a better hand its just a cooler

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12-01-2019 , 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by AngryDingo

I think turn is a clear overbet. You should just be overbetting a ton on this turn. Then jam river. If he has a better hand its just a cooler

This is a good point. After thinking about it - turn is definitely an overbet.

I like your line a lot more than mine.

Which rivers would you NOT overbet?

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12-01-2019 , 08:48 PM

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Only a king or a spade

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