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08-02-2021 , 02:32 PM

rangemonkey

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Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 201

so villian is a 15/13 nitty reg over 280 hands have seen him get out of line at all this river bet i feel like with his range its only ever trips , a huge draw with a a or k etc
is this a snap fold or am i overthinking micros way to much are hand looks huge till the turn all in shove then i jus wanna puke and fold haha i feel like even a draw in that spot is minus ev for how often he will hit it

can we call this and it actually be profitable

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: $6.41
Hero (CO): $10.29
BTN: $13.88
SB: $5.00
BB: $5.07
UTG: $7.09

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has 6

UTG raises to $0.15, fold, Hero calls $0.15, fold, fold, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.47, 3 players) J

BB checks, UTG bets $0.20, Hero raises to $0.50, fold, UTG calls $0.30

Turn: ($1.47, 2 players) 9

UTG checks, Hero bets $1.30, UTG raises to $6.44 and is all-in, fold

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08-02-2021 , 02:51 PM

submersible

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Join Date: Jul 2021 Posts: 1,584

i wouldnt ever call here pre with anything to begin with but i dont know how u can cold call 3x pre and then fold when u make a set. i know thats like pretty surface level analysis but no solver / person is ever going to tell u to fold your hand so i dont know what else to say.

edit: flop raise is way too small 150 bb deep vs a guy who presumably is very overpair heavy from pre stats too

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08-02-2021 , 03:01 PM

rangemonkey

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I know jus seems like such a weird spot to he in I've never seen the villain get out of line play his draws stupidly aggressive etc. He jus a very abc tight reg I just could see him turning up with aces , kk a draw with such a big bet

I ran it though a solver and it's says to call this turn shower everytime jus seems like such a weird spot I haven't played micros in so long I may be giving him to much credit.. I wanna say he hit trip nines but one of them where I'm jus gunna never know haha

Think your definatly right on the Flop raise aswell especially as I've called specifically to set mine him

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08-02-2021 , 03:02 PM

Puddles8554

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Snap call

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08-02-2021 , 03:43 PM

ChiTownBubba

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Simplify your strategy to 3b/fold from everywhere but BTN/BB. I will agree this is the type of combo to take up against a nit (you get paid off more often when you hit).

He literally has 3 sets and 4 straights here. He has 18 combos of unblocked overpairs (9 of which have good removal against your Flush Draws. He will also have stuff like AKdd, KQdd, AQdd, AJdd, ATd also.

Make your life easier, raise that flop up somewhere between .80 to 1.10 and bet/call all turns.

As played, calling all day.

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08-02-2021 , 06:02 PM

S. Whizzleteats

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Join Date: Jul 2021 Posts: 101

We're really only afraid of JJ and maybe 99.

Do we really think a nit is opening 78s UTG? Maybe, but we're scared of monsters under the bed if we think that's all he could have. If he could have 78s, I don't think it J9s would be all that unreasonable.

This is an overpair a lot and maybe NFD like ChiTown said. Snap call. If he's got 78s, make a note and on to the next hand.

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08-02-2021 , 09:09 PM

allinIlose

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Join Date: Aug 2021 Posts: 63

I like flatting with 66 and not three betting

when you make the set on the flop you want to be thinking about getting it all in ASAP - I would probably make my raise on the flop bigger - when you raise to .50 you are only raising about 2/3 pot while .70 is a little closer to a pot sized bet. They may even just shove over the top there with QQ+ and you have an easy call

their opening range doesn't have 78 in it that much - I would snap this off right away and then cry if I lose

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08-03-2021 , 01:13 AM

rangemonkey

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Thanks guys when I playing 5 years ago I think I would of snapped called and been really happy with it since i started getting back into it I've been so nitty I note this next time and call it off

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08-03-2021 , 01:30 AM

YouBetIcall

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Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 1,048

this is easy fold preflop as everyone else said, but as played, I don't mind the fold, usually this type of nits just wait for their hand and don't overvalue overpairs in MW pots vs strong action.

I think that fold is ok, but you need to focus on your preflop play to start with

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08-03-2021 , 05:21 AM

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rangemonkey

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@youbeticall so no one agrees with the cold call here? I only seen him raise once from utg before in 270 hands I literally put him on aa-qq ak
I thought the call here in position and him having such a low range I could set mine, out play him after the Flop with him having such a polarized range or is this thought process ancient now sorry been away from it for so long

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08-03-2021 , 06:36 AM

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YouBetIcall

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It's not just UTG that is the problem, you have 3 more players to act and they can SQZ and you will have to fold, rake is huge at this limit, so calling 3BB raise is not optimal as well. also, if he plays solid, you will have to fold postflop every time you don't hit set...

Just fold, don't have calling range in micros unless you are on button or BB, and be very tight with calls vs 3BB opens

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08-04-2021 , 10:48 AM

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BornToRun

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Originally Posted by rangemonkey

To expand on what YBI said, the call would actually be okay at higher stakes, but with the rake at 5nl it makes it a fold. Rake has a huge impact on preflop ranges.

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08-04-2021 , 12:55 PM

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allinIlose

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yeah it doesn't make sense that they would hit their hand and then c/r all in. I would widen their range here considerably to more than just the nuts.

I would snap this off and if I am behind to a straight, I'm 20% or so to boat up on the river. There are too many random hands that do this like 89d or AJ with the Ad -or- some random JK. Not to mention lots of flush draws with weird gaps 79d or T8d for example.

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