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25NL * Thin Value OTR / fold? 25NL * Thin Value OTR / fold?

06-24-2017 , 11:55 AM
Hey Ive just played these couple of hands when I was not that happy thin-value-betting OTR, I want to make sure these couple of river bets are fine when looking at profit on the long whole...4Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
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Hero (CO): $25.00
BTN: $30.69 59/ 6/ 1.9 109H
SB: $28.55
BB: $26.39
UTG: $25.00

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is CO with A Q
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.63, BTN calls $0.63, 2 folds

Flop: ($1.61) Q 9 T (2 players)
Hero bets $1.49, BTN calls $1.49

Turn: ($4.59) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $3.50, BTN calls $3.50

River: ($11.59) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $4.25





Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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MP: $30.80
CO: $25.00
BTN: $19.69 37/ 9/ 0.2 147H
SB: $17.34
BB: $25.00
Hero (UTG): $25.67

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG with K A
Hero raises to $0.75, 2 folds, BTN calls $0.75, SB calls $0.65, 1 fold

Flop: ($2.50) 3 A 6 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.75, BTN calls $1.75, SB folds

Turn: ($6.00) 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $3.50, BTN calls $3.50

River: ($13.00) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $3.75



One more thing, what about the sizing in there? how much is an appropriate thin-value-bet?
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06-24-2017 , 12:40 PM
h1 way too ambitious starting from big cbet
h2 okay

one hand per thread
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06-24-2017 , 02:03 PM
I don't hate H1 given this villain.
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06-24-2017 , 04:46 PM
H1-Why such big cbet dont see the poitn of that?I think river is ok if we assume he raise two pairs and sets otf he can have some 8x and few flushes but he probably has all QJ and KQ combos that will just check beck.

H2-Ok too.He has very few 45S and maybe 56s but there is decent chance he dose not call those pre vs UTG and two pairs and sets find raise ott a lot,so imo we are not beaten that often in this spot.Probably should use bigger size.
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06-24-2017 , 06:33 PM
Hand 1 I think river is definitely a check. Its too easy for him to have 2 pair+ on this board so I think the river bet is too thin.

Hand 2 I like all streets/sizings.
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06-25-2017 , 06:58 AM
H1 im on board with vs this villain. i feel like if we're going to be vb'ing thin vs anyone its these kinds of players. I would be interested in their WTSD stat still but I like trying to size your bet to the bottom of their range on a board that hits a lot of holdings vs an opponent that never raises as a bluff here.

H2 - everything is cool - maybe you can go a little bigger since he shouldnt have a lot of 5s here but i cant give solid reasons why as a standard play we should be sizing closer to 1/2 pot say beyond something like - draw bricks and likelihood we get looked up goes up a bit so b/f'ing a larger size here isnt a crime vs opponents like that - i'd be curious what other folks think about those reasons tho.

I am curious about your own reason for submitting these - what didnt you like?
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