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08-19-2018 , 09:48 AM

mclainbret01

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I'm BB AQo button raises to 20 cent SB makes it 80c I call flop comes 10s Ah 9d SB leads out $1.10 I reraise $2.20 he reraises $5 I push he calls he shows A7d turn comes 6h river 8d rivers the straight and I'm bout to flip the desk over lol what should I have done different I thought I played perfect?

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08-19-2018 , 10:05 AM

Ojune

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playing perfect implies predicting the future apparently

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08-19-2018 , 10:34 AM

Rikk

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You didn't play it perfectly. Calling pre was bad. Raising flop was worse. Jamming over villain's flop 3bet was suicide.

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08-19-2018 , 10:55 AM

THAFOST

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4bet/fold pre

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08-19-2018 , 11:22 AM

mclainbret01

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I'm obviously a loosing player lol what would y'all do with small pocket pairs on the button limp/fold?

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08-19-2018 , 11:23 AM

mclainbret01

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Live I don't have a problem winning but online I can't beat the lowest stakes

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08-19-2018 , 11:29 AM

Rikk

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Originally Posted by mclainbret01

I'm obviously a loosing player lol what would y'all do with small pocket pairs on the button limp/fold?

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Don't limp. Especially not OTB. Raise to your usual size and then play poker.

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08-19-2018 , 11:39 AM

mclainbret01

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Here we go again....

Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD Poker Tracking Software

NL Holdem $0.1(BB)
HJ ($11.14) [VPIP: 47.6% | PFR: 35.4% | AGG: 28.8% | 3-Bet: 10.7% | Hands: 84]
HERO ($13.43) [VPIP: 27.6% | PFR: 8.1% | AGG: 46.8% | 3-Bet: 2.9% | Hands: 971]
BTN ($10) [VPIP: 19.5% | PFR: 18.2% | AGG: 42.4% | 3-Bet: 7% | Hands: 160]
SB ($5) [VPIP: 27% | PFR: 13% | AGG: 21.4% | 3-Bet: 5.3% | Hands: 186]
BB ($9.54) [VPIP: 24% | PFR: 15.6% | AGG: 23.3% | 3-Bet: 6.7% | Hands: 97]
UTG ($23.6) [VPIP: 27.2% | PFR: 21.9% | AGG: 43.4% | 3-Bet: 7.9% | Hands: 403]

Dealt to Hero: Q

UTG Raises To $0.30, HJ Folds, HERO Raises To $0.65, BTN Folds, SB Folds, BB Folds, UTG Calls $0.35

Hero SPR on Flop: [8.81 effective]
Flop ($1.45): K

UTG Checks, HERO Checks

Turn ($1.45): K

UTG Bets $1.20 (Rem. Stack: 21.75), HERO Calls $1.20 (Rem. Stack: 11.58)

River ($3.85): K

UTG Bets $2.29 (Rem. Stack: 19.46), HERO Calls $2.29 (Rem. Stack: 9.29)

[SPOILER]
UTG shows: 6

UTG wins: $7.97
[/SPOILER]

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08-19-2018 , 12:18 PM

Rikk

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Played awfully again. You just said you cant beat the lowest stakes online and yet youre posting hands from 10nl. Move down and study. Relinquish any notion that you are too good for 2nl.

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08-19-2018 , 12:20 PM

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mclainbret01

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The site I play on (betonline) is the lowest they offer

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08-19-2018 , 12:23 PM

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Rikk

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Okay well judgong from your stats and hands youve posted there are some very serious leaks in your game so i would strongly suggest getting a stars account if you can and playing 2nl until you have the fundamentals down, starting with PF ranges. Your VPIP is too high, your PFR is way too low and your 3b is very low too.

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08-19-2018 , 12:24 PM

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mclainbret01

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I'm in America I can't already tried

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08-19-2018 , 12:47 PM

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Rikk

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I know you guys are restricted for choice in the US but are there no other sites that offer lower stakes? WPN/ACR/Global?

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08-19-2018 , 01:30 PM

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mclainbret01

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Not too sure about them ive heard bad things ab all but global

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08-19-2018 , 01:35 PM

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Ive heard the pools are tough but thats not really your biggest concern at this point. You need a practice ground where you arent hemorraging $ while you learn.

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08-19-2018 , 01:59 PM

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mclainbret01

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What I'm saying is I can beat live but I can't beat online idk what it is it seems they hit way to many turns and rivers i know there is bad beats but do they really happen that often? I think it's more of a gambling than anything online bc "it's only $1" or "it is only 50c"

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08-19-2018 , 07:55 PM

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CC96

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Originally Posted by mclainbret01

This is definitely not the case. Don't use excuses like these as you will never learn that way. Start from the bottom and work up and you will learn things along the way. You can be at least a breakeven player at the lowest stakes by improving your pre flop game/basic post flop game.

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08-19-2018 , 09:09 PM

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AlanBostick

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I strongly recommend buying and reading The Grinder's Manual by Peter Clarke, which is an excellent no-nonsense guide to what a person has to do to beat micro-to-low-stakes online NLHE. It costs close to $60 for Amazon Kindle, which is six buy-ins at 10NL, but that seems to me to be a small price to pay for transforming yourself from a big loser at 10NL to a reasonable winner.

I was beating 10NL on WPN but getting killed at 25NL before I read TGM. Now I am doing much better at 25NL, although I do not have enough hands to say that I am actually beating it. That one book has made all the difference.

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08-20-2018 , 02:42 AM

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Rikk

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Firstly, live is much softer than most stakes online. Secondly, you will be playing far fewer hands so you could Just be on a heater live. Thirdly, live plays very differently to online so if you use the same strategies and sizings it will hurt you. Fourthly, all of your other excuses are BS. Relinquish any notion that you are too good for whatever stake youre playinv because you 'can beat live'.

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08-21-2018 , 07:01 AM

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mclainbret01

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I am moving to ignition and getting preflop charts anything else you recommend doing? Less bluffing value betting when nuts folding to what looks like a bluff

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08-21-2018 , 07:03 AM

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Rikk

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Nice one

tbh ive never subscribed to the catch-all 'don't bluff in the micros' but definitely get max value from your value hands because these guys will pay you off. Preflop charts are a great start but just keep posting hand histories here and youll be crushing in no time.

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08-21-2018 , 07:03 AM

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mclainbret01

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Also should I play zone(zoom on pokerstars) or the regular tables?

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08-21-2018 , 07:07 AM

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Rikk

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Originally Posted by mclainbret01

Also should I play zone(zoom on pokerstars) or the regular tables?

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People say zoom is harder but ive never found it to be the case, i think theyre a bit nittier and youll be relying more on population reads than specific villain reads because youll have smaller samples on villains. I think just give both a go and see which suits your playstyle

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08-21-2018 , 07:09 AM

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mclainbret01

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Sounds good and the lowest they have is 5nl what should I deposit?

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08-21-2018 , 08:30 AM

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ULTRACURRY

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Originally Posted by mclainbret01

Sounds good and the lowest they have is 5nl what should I deposit?

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If you are a winning player: 135 USD will be fine..

If not, 200~250

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