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Standard Triple Barrel Bluff? Squeezed PF and went for it Standard Triple Barrel Bluff? Squeezed PF and went for it

10-19-2018 , 05:46 PM
don't like my sizing here in retrospect i probably should have just shipped turn

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NL Holdem $0.25(BB)
HERO ($26.36) [VPIP: 27.9% | PFR: 21.6% | AGG: 30.7% | 3-Bet: 10.6% | Hands: 73804]
HJ ($25) [VPIP: 24.5% | PFR: 17.9% | AGG: 33.4% | 3-Bet: 5.9% | Hands: 1337]
CO ($25.63) [VPIP: 35% | PFR: 25% | AGG: 66.7% | 3-Bet: 0% | Hands: 20]
BTN ($33.19) [VPIP: 33.3% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 16.7% | 3-Bet: 0% | Hands: 6]
SB ($41.84) [VPIP: 24.3% | PFR: 18.1% | AGG: 34% | 3-Bet: 8.6% | Hands: 5270]

Dealt to Hero: 7 6

HJ Folds, CO Raises To $0.75, BTN Calls $0.75, SB Folds, HERO Raises To $3.25, CO Folds, BTN Calls $2.50

Hero SPR on Flop: [3.14 effective]
Flop ($7.35): 7 3 Q
HERO Bets $2.25 (Rem. Stack: 20.86), BTN Calls $2.25 (Rem. Stack: 27.69)

Turn ($11.85): 7 3 Q 8
HERO Bets $7.75 (Rem. Stack: 13.11), BTN Calls $7.75 (Rem. Stack: 19.94)

River ($27.35): 7 3 Q 8 5
HERO Bets $13.11 (allin)
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10-19-2018 , 06:21 PM
Don't like squeezing this hand pre, doesn't play great in low SPR pots, prefer big suited broadways, cbet fine, turn i prob x/c, not jamming river. Think once he's called turn he's not folding this river much.
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10-19-2018 , 06:25 PM
Why did you cbet flop so small ? I would bet half pot otf and then possible jam turn
River is intersting if we jam all 76s 45s 56s(if you 3b those) we are overbluffing with this sizing if not 76s seems ok even tho this combo has some bad removal effect.
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10-19-2018 , 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by SH1591
Don't like squeezing this hand pre, doesn't play great in low SPR pots, prefer big suited broadways, cbet fine, turn i prob x/c, not jamming river. Think once he's called turn he's not folding this river much.
you need to have some hands like this in your squeezing range to protect yourself on low boards though. I prefer suited broadways as well.
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10-19-2018 , 06:47 PM
I wouldn't recommend squeezing this hand below 25NL (you get called too often, and it probably has a higher EV as an overcall vs weaker players), but I think it might be GTO to use SCs as BB squeezes higher up. (I was shocked by Snowie's very wide squeezing ranges in the BB when I first looked at them a couple of years ago. I believe it would 3-bet 76s in this spot and then flat if CO 4-bets!)

I'm really not sure about post-flop. Flop and turn look fine, but my gut says to give up on the river. A decent villain would often have AQs (and possibly nothing else) once he calls twice (JJ-99 should probably fold turn, as you rep QQ+ so hard). This guy appears fishy, and that might mean you can't even get him off a worse pair than Qx. He's obviously not folding a set, if he made the mistake of calling the squeeze with 77/33/88.
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10-19-2018 , 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Haizemberg93
Why did you cbet flop so small ? I would bet half pot otf and then possible jam turn
River is intersting if we jam all 76s 45s 56s(if you 3b those) we are overbluffing with this sizing if not 76s seems ok even tho this combo has some bad removal effect.
yeah i like a bigger bet on the flop in hindsight and ship the turn. Do you think he ever folds a hand like QT/QJ here?
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10-19-2018 , 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ArtyMcFly
I wouldn't recommend squeezing this hand below 25NL (you get called too often, and it probably has a higher EV as an overcall vs weaker players), but I think it might be GTO to use SCs as BB squeezes higher up. (I was shocked by Snowie's very wide squeezing ranges in the BB when I first looked at them a couple of years ago. I believe it would 3-bet 76s in this spot and then flat if CO 4-bets!)

I'm really not sure about post-flop. Flop and turn look fine, but my gut says to give up on the river. A decent villain would often have AQs (and possibly nothing else) once he calls twice (JJ-99 should probably fold turn, as you rep QQ+ so hard). This guy appears fishy, and that might mean you can't even get him off a worse pair than Qx. He's obviously not folding a set, if he made the mistake of calling the squeeze with 77/33/88.
Do we think he calls QTs/QJs? I know KQs/AQs call.
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10-19-2018 , 07:18 PM
I wouldn’t turn our pair into a bluff on the flop.

We can x/c this turn and make money at almost any bet sizing.

We have loads of hands that are almost dead at sd without improving to turn into bluffs. This combo has enough equity to use as a cheap sd. Possibly a river bet if it’s checks to there.


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10-19-2018 , 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Gabe16
I wouldn’t turn our pair into a bluff on the flop.

We can x/c this turn and make money at almost any bet sizing.

We have loads of hands that are almost dead at sd without improving to turn into bluffs. This combo has enough equity to use as a cheap sd. Possibly a river bet if it’s checks to there.


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i dont think i have a xc range on a Q73r board. He's just going to miss it pretty often
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10-19-2018 , 10:36 PM
He prolly doesn't have AQ just flatting pre flop, but I seems like the only hands calling 2 streets and folding river is like 8-10s

I'd bet more flop, bet less turn (talking about % of pot size with these) give up river
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10-19-2018 , 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by DooDooPoker
you need to have some hands like this in your squeezing range to protect yourself on low boards though. I prefer suited broadways as well.
Board coverage is less of a concern in a low SPR pot though
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10-20-2018 , 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by DooDooPoker
i dont think i have a xc range on a Q73r board. He's just going to miss it pretty often


Then just check to river. You don't have a value bet, bluffing this then bluffing semi bluffs/hopeless would leave us over bluffing. What strength do you put into a check back range?


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10-20-2018 , 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by SH1591
Board coverage is less of a concern in a low SPR pot though
exactly it's likely close to irrelevant in a 3b pot 100bb deep
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