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07-07-2021 , 11:37 AM
Standard against V who probes T 70%?

I expected him to bet F w/ overpairs, 67s and I expected him to be wayyy too bluff heavy OTT/OTR. He has 8x sometimes yes, but I still think he overbluffs this a lot.

Im mostly curious about R. Should we lead jam or call? This guy bets R also 75% so was thinking he probably has more bluffs than ties we make him fold.

This is not a line I take 100%. OTF I cbet sometimes. As played F I don't think we can fold any street against this V, right?
iPoker - €0.20 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 111.2 BB
UTG: 177.6 BB
MP: 44.35 BB
CO: 205.2 BB
BTN: 100 BB
Hero (SB): 103 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q A

fold, MP calls 1 BB, CO raises to 5 BB, fold, Hero raises to 15 BB, fold, fold, CO calls 10 BB

Flop: (32 BB, 2 players) 6 3 3
Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: (32 BB, 2 players) 8
Hero checks, CO bets 24 BB, Hero calls 24 BB

River: (80 BB, 2 players) 8
Hero checks, CO bets 60 BB, Hero calls 60 BB
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07-07-2021 , 11:48 AM
Flop is a range bet

Would be big sizing at normal 4 SPR but can go smaller at 3ish

Last edited by DooDooPoker; 07-07-2021 at 11:55 AM.
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07-07-2021 , 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by DooDooPoker
Flop is a range bet

Would be big sizing at normal 4 SPR but can go smaller at 3ish
I think we have better options here than rangebet vs V who folds a bit too much to cbets but probes a lot. I think we generate more EV by checking back some holdings that do fine later.
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07-07-2021 , 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Rared
I think we have better options here than rangebet vs V who folds a bit too much to cbets but probes a lot. I think we generate more EV by checking back some holdings that do fine later.
Where's your data for that statement though?

If you think he is a fish that doesn't realize this is a range cbet spot then check some AA/KK. Not AQo.

Also you can't check back some holdings when you are OOP.
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08-05-2021 , 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by DooDooPoker
Where's your data for that statement though?

If you think he is a fish that doesn't realize this is a range cbet spot then check some AA/KK. Not AQo.

Also you can't check back some holdings when you are OOP.
Whether or not this is a range cbet depends on ranges, I wouldn't consider this a range bet at all. Have you solved this spot?

OP, how many hands do you have on villain? 3bet pots play very differently so I doubt you have a big enough sample size in 3bet pots to be deviating from your default strategy.
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08-05-2021 , 01:47 PM
+1 for range bet. as played id call river. also agree with this not being the hand to "generate ev "with by trapping
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08-05-2021 , 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by BornToRun
Whether or not this is a range cbet depends on ranges, I wouldn't consider this a range bet at all. Have you solved this spot?

OP, how many hands do you have on villain? 3bet pots play very differently so I doubt you have a big enough sample size in 3bet pots to be deviating from your default strategy.
It actually checks more than I thought - around 32%~.

I still think ranging is probably best though.



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08-05-2021 , 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by DooDooPoker
It actually checks more than I thought - around 32%~.

I still think ranging is probably best though.
y tho
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08-05-2021 , 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by BornToRun
y tho
If we bet 50% - IP is supposed to raise us close to 12% of the time.

Hands like 65s/JTs/KTs etc and then 99-JJ.

I don't think they find those raises often enough. If we nodelock to a more realistic raise % it will be closer to a range bet.
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08-05-2021 , 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by DooDooPoker
If we bet 50% - IP is supposed to raise us close to 12% of the time.

Hands like 65s/JTs/KTs etc and then 99-JJ.

I don't think they find those raises often enough. If we nodelock to a more realistic raise % it will be closer to a range bet.
I'd be surprised if most opponents didn't reach that 12% or at least get close to it, I think this type of board is one that even recs know they can raise a decent %. Been about 11 years since I played on iPoker though.
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08-06-2021 , 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by BornToRun
I'd be surprised if most opponents didn't reach that 12% or at least get close to it, I think this type of board is one that even recs know they can raise a decent %. Been about 11 years since I played on iPoker though.
recs do the opposite - they will raise more vs 1/3 sizing and call more vs bigger sizing because it looks stronger. Even though you should raise more vs bigger sizing
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