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Small pair vs 2nd barrel NL25z Small pair vs 2nd barrel NL25z

07-16-2018 , 09:26 AM
I really need some help figuring out the right decision in this spot, so any analysis is appreciated.

Villain: 20/10/3, CB 33 (71 hands)

I don't always make this loose call PF, but when I do, I feel that I have to call one bet on a low flop.

On the turn however, if I am beat then I don't have enough outs to justify a call (even with implied odds from the remaining $13), and Villain doesn't seem to be bluffing.

    Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37935051

    Hero (BTN): $31.99 (128 bb)
    SB: $26.48 (105.9 bb)
    BB: $25.48 (101.9 bb)
    UTG: $79.90 (319.6 bb)
    MP: $13.81 (55.2 bb)
    CO: $25 (100 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with 5 5
    3 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, SB raises to $2.25, BB folds, Hero calls $1.50

    Flop: ($4.75) 6 3 9 (2 players)
    SB bets $2.63, Hero calls $2.63

    Turn: ($10.01) 4 (2 players)
    SB bets $8.60, Hero ?




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    07-16-2018 , 09:29 AM
    Pre isn't even that loose imo

    Calling flop is good.

    I'm calling turn too given we have an open ender outs and set outs, and I think we very often stack TT+. We also have some SDV when V checks river.
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    07-16-2018 , 09:45 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Rikk
    I'm calling turn too given we have an open ender outs and set outs, and I think we very often stack TT+.
    But isn't TT+ the majority of this range here, making it unprofitable to call given the insufficient pot+implied odds?
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    07-16-2018 , 10:44 AM
    Pre is close.

    I'd just fold flop, this has to be one of our worst hands with the fewest ways to improve.
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    07-16-2018 , 10:50 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by simplelessons
    Pre is close.

    I'd just fold flop, this has to be one of our worst hands with the fewest ways to improve.
    Wouldn't we have plenty of overcards, Axs here which we can fold to a single bullet of aggression? Plus we have any 2/4/7/8 to give us a GS or open ender and any 5 to give us a set? I know the GS aren't a great improvement, but we get to showdown a not-insignificant amount of the time, and V checks turn a not-insignificant amount of the time too.

    I think all of the options are pretty close on all streets so I could be wrong on everything, but I think if we're calling pre we can't just be folding to any amount of aggression on boards that don't absolutely smack us.
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    07-16-2018 , 10:57 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Rikk
    Wouldn't we have plenty of overcards, Axs here which we can fold to a single bullet of aggression? Plus we have any 2/4/7/8 to give us a GS or open ender and any 5 to give us a set? I know the GS aren't a great improvement, but we get to showdown a not-insignificant amount of the time, and V checks turn a not-insignificant amount of the time too.

    I think all of the options are pretty close on all streets so I could be wrong on everything, but I think if we're calling pre we can't just be folding to any amount of aggression on boards that don't absolutely smack us.
    I'd rather call with 2 overs which could have more ways to improve when behind. We also block 45s. All of our straight configurations put 4 to a straight on the board so our implied odds are not stellar. A 5 also completes a couple of different straights which might scare single pair hands off. We can just fold and focus our energy on better spots.
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    07-16-2018 , 11:59 AM
    Pre is normal BTN vs SB. SB 3bet range should be pretty wide here so if you are calling pre, then you have to call a flop with no broadways on. Turn is close, we have picked up the GS, I think I would call unless the villain is super nitty. As rikk said we also have SDV when the villain checks the river.
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    07-16-2018 , 12:26 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by c_the_dog
    Turn is close, we have picked up the GS, I think I would call unless the villain is super nitty. As rikk said we also have SDV when the villain checks the river.
    So without enough reads we should assume that the average aggressive villain may be bluffing or semibluffing in this spot, thus making the call profitable?

    If we are calling, then is there any river card on which we are calling a shove, besides those obvious that improve our hand?
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    07-16-2018 , 12:32 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Bogdan314
    So without enough reads we should assume that the average aggressive villain may be bluffing or semibluffing in this spot, thus making the call profitable?

    If we are calling, then is there any river card on which we are calling a shove, besides those obvious that improve our hand?
    A reg isn't going to shove a worse hand on any card that improves us and a fish isn't going to have enough bluffs on the flop and turn.
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    07-16-2018 , 12:44 PM
    The river would be a fold unimproved, to any bet from the villain.
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