Reasons for R call and T float:

1. V basically repping 66, 67s, 56s. V had quite high foldto3b% so I dont think he has 33,44 in his range. Probably not even 56s. Quite thin value range I would say.

2. He had quite high bet T %. Probably betting a lot of fds, sds, 77-JJ here. I was floating T because he has probably lot of draws in his range.

3. R I was going to fold to a bet like 20-40bb. Might sound insane but this big sizing made me call this. First of all, his valuerange (77-JJ, 66, 76s) wants to bet R smaller mostly since our range is weak. Especially 77-JJ I would expect to valuebet small R. 66,67s probably shoves here but not many combos. SO he still has a lot of draws in his range he decides to bluff will shove. Badregs/recs often are not thinking about what are they repping when they bluff.

4. Timing. He snap jammed R and didn't think about sizing (which he would with valuehand almost always.) This is a tell I have found very useful. Usually quick bets = bluff and tank bets = value. Not always ofc but happens often.

So what do u think. Not best hand to call here blocking some fds etc but his range felt very bluff heavy here.

PokerStars - $0.16 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 111.13 BB
Hero (SB): 191.81 BB
BB: 60.06 BB
UTG: 101 BB
MP: 112.19 BB
CO: 111 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T A

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 10 BB, fold, BTN calls 7 BB

Flop: (21 BB, 2 players) 6 3 6
Hero bets 7 BB, BTN calls 7 BB

Turn: (35 BB, 2 players) 4
Hero checks, BTN bets 18.19 BB, Hero calls 18.19 BB

River: (71.38 BB, 2 players) 3
Hero checks, BTN bets 75.94 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 75.94 BB

BTN shows 9 7 (Two Pair, Sixes and Threes)
(Pre 40%, Flop 25%, Turn 23%)
Hero shows T A (Two Pair, Sixes and Threes)
(Pre 60%, Flop 75%, Turn 77%)
Hero wins 213.88 BB

I’m so confused by just about all of this. Short answer: “spew, IMO”

I know I’m a bit tighter than most, and I have no charts in front of me, but I don’t think ATo is a 3b pre. If they have a high FT3B, ok I guess I get it, but I still think there are better candidates like TJs or A5s.

Why donk OTF? We probably have more 6s in our range than V, but being out of position with a green light to fire this board, wouldn’t we want to check raise all of our value hands, and thus our bluffs?

OTT we should be giving up. Even at this size and defense frequency (67%) we aren’t that high up in our range (and though it’s hard to know what your range here is.)

OTR we need to defend roughly 50% of hands. Being that we have all the pps 77-JJ I’m not for sure we’re there. The river call is the closest to defensible play in this hand.

As always, I may be wrong, just my $.02


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I was wrong, ATo is USUALLY a 3! My apologies


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Im not donking flop. Its called cbet.

Don't post results in the OP man

#3 - He has a little over a PSB left on the river. Shoving both his bluff and value range is perfectly reasonable.

#4 - I agree, except I would say tanking = value is way more reliable than quick bet = bluff.


Turn and River calls are bad when we block both FDs.

You’re right.

And I was wrong about a lot here. As I said before, ATo is usually a 3! With that in mind, and you being the last preflop aggressor, I don’t mind the lead. I’m still not sure on the turn call. That one seems pretty loose to me, but OTR we have the nut no pair, and it’s a close decision. So, maybe a bit loose, but not a spew.


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Ah is bad card to call with, but you were palying against monkey, so anthing goes. OTOH, if you are taking b, cc,cc line seems you have read it's monkey, so WP...

I did the opposite from SB vs UTG. I flatted a hand (98s), with the intention of bluffing. On flop, I checked, he cbet, then raised. I then bet big turn, and bet big river (no shove).

Board was similar, 6x6 on flop, with the second X on turn. AQo folded (we get everyone's hole cards on Ignition). I was repping one of those two cards, or an overpair.

Sounds like BTN was doing the same here, but not as effective. If you are going to bluff, need to raise somewhere, and take control of betting. Best bet is when you cbet (since he obviously had no draws), is to raise you.

Agree with Ramius. I think it would be a better call with ATo with different suits. With Ah on your hand he’s never bluffing the nut fd. Vs range will be very polarised here so I like the call.


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First off, I think you have to be careful about the fold to 3bet stat, as you will need a lot of hands for it to become quite relevant. I think you can make some small adjustments if sample size isn't huge. For example, facing a 2.5bb open, ATo is a fine 3bet (to 4x the open size), but vs a 3bb open, I like folding better. So, assuming a smallish sample size, I think a reasonable adjustment would be 3betting (to 4x the open). However, if villain is showing up with 97s here, I think your assumption he couldn't have 33/44/65s is probably not correct.

Again, t bet % is a stat which will require a reasonable sample size, which you may have, I don't know, but if you don't, I'd be careful about reading too much into. However, this is probably a decent spot to bluff, and you probably have to call with a decent amount of A high (as villain really shouldn't be looking to bluff with many A high, I'm not even convinced they should be using many A high FDs). As villain should probably be looking to mostly 4bet JJ and mostly call TT pre, I don't think calling with AT is a bad idea, blocking one of villain's strongest value hands.

I'm relatively sure (although maybe some people with stronger theoretical knowledge may correct me) that when our range is capped (like here, mostly medium strength hands with showdown value), villain should be going big with their value bets and bluffs. Having two sizes might make sense, but my guess is that in theory, we should be calling a river shove with some of our A high, and some small pocket pairs or hands like 54s (if in range), so I reckon even including 77-JJ in an allin size would be correct, although I don't think most micro villains will. I do think that this is a very easy spot for villain to be overbluffing though, as their range should be 2/3 value, and they might have a large selection of potential bluffs. However, villain's hand is actually a great hand to bluff with. Ott, he has a gutshot and no FD, whilst blocking 76s (which may not be a 3bet pre for you, but pretty sure it is something some people 3bet) which is, with 65s and A6s, the only credible 6x you can have. Otr, this has to be close to the worst hand they can have, they unblock all FDs (which would call turn and fold river for you), block some of the strongest hands in your range, unblock all K and A high turn floats. So I would say, villain has actually played this hand pretty well.

On your end, I think pf is marginal but fine, flop is good, turn is close, but blocking TT and having the Ah (which you could use to bluff river on a h) is actually not a bad thing, so I would say is good. River, the A being a h is irrelevant in terms of the FD (as villain would have to make a huge mistake to bet an A), but doesn't actually block any value for villain (like A6s or A3s), so it would be better with As or Ad, and whilst having a 7s or 7c particularly (blocking 77 and 76s), but maybe also an 8 or a 9 (as 88-99 should be more frequent pf calls than TT, which may get 4bet) would be better than a T, your hand is clearly superior as a call to AJ-AK. So I'd say this hand seems to me to have been played close enough to correctly on both ends. The only thing that sticks out to me is that you made some assumptions about villain's range which I feel like villain's actual holding shows to be incorrect.

Thanks for good answer pjj. I very much agree with you. As you said, my assumptions were wrong and he probably has more 6x than I expected (since he has 97s) too here. And yes I agree with you about our calling range otr. I would fold here AQo, AQs, AKo, AKs,KQs, KQo etc. AT is in my opinion one of our best bluffcatches since we block atleast some of his valuecombos. 97dd is not probably bad bluff here but I kind of feel that he is overbluffing this spot.

This comes down to whether your read is right or not, so there's nothing a forum can help u with on these kinds of hands

Problem is villain have no value combos that are not FH/quads here, i spent on nl16 too much time, if you are thinking that even LAG's are shoving any pp here for value you are dead ****ing wrong, villain is just whale or fish LAG that have no idea how narrow range he is repping, and as you mentioned he is overbluffing a ton, btw, no idea why you think aq, ak are better bluffcatchers, as i said, he dont shove any pp here, even tens

Sometimes they do, I have seen it with 22 and 33. But it is rare in population.

22 is just another bluff, if he is doing this with 97 he can do this with anything really, just dont expect even aggro villain to shove 77 here, even aggro fish are usually very polar with river bets. Hero is face up, and unless he is doing this line with entire range it's super easy to exploit, but vs monkeys you can throw any gimmic you can find and print.