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Was shoving bad? Was shoving bad?

08-15-2018 , 07:09 PM
Hello,

Unable to really get my head around this hand and think the hand through correctly.

Is my shove here bad, I kept thinking I am only really concerned about AQ. I figured set over set probabilities are scarce (plus had been on the wrong end of that twice already in 200 hands)

Figured a draw/combo draw/ and 2P would still call here?


PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 197 BB
SB: 100 BB
BB: 118.5 BB (VPIP: 26.47, PFR: 26.47, 3Bet Preflop: 15.38, Hands: 34)
UTG: 123.5 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
MP: 214 BB (VPIP: 20.38, PFR: 14.23, 3Bet Preflop: 2.04, Hands: 264)
CO: 116 BB (VPIP: 12.50, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 3 3

fold, fold, CO raises to 3 BB, Hero calls 3 BB, fold, fold

Flop: (7.5 BB, 2 players) 3 K T
CO bets 3 BB, Hero raises to 13 BB, CO calls 10 BB

Turn: (33.5 BB, 2 players) J
CO checks, Hero bets 20 BB, CO raises to 43 BB, Hero raises to 181 BB and is all-in, CO calls 57 BB and is all-in

River: (233.5 BB, 2 players) 9

Spoiler:
CO shows A Q (Straight, Ace High)
(Pre 47%, Flop 14%, Turn 77%)
Hero shows 3 3 (Three of a Kind, Threes)
(Pre 53%, Flop 86%, Turn 23%)
CO wins 225.5 BB
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08-15-2018 , 07:13 PM
bigger ott
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08-15-2018 , 07:14 PM
I'd be very alarmed when we get checkraised OTT and it's a sick spot. Don't like shoving and I don't like folding. So that leave me with calling not sure what else to do
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08-16-2018 , 01:24 AM
Indeed a yuck spot. As mentioned, you can go way bigger on the turn. As played, I don't think we need to shove the turn.
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08-16-2018 , 02:05 AM
If he floated your raise on the flop and hit it on the turn good for him. pay that man eees money.
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08-16-2018 , 09:15 AM
Hand is fine, it happens.

The only possible adjustment hero might consider is to slowplay strong hands that involve the bottom card on the flop. So, bottom set or top-bottom two pair. You are not folding, see how the board runs out before you make your move.

As played, when vil checkraises the minimum, might as well flat this. Again, you are not folding and vil might make the mistake of betting or bluffing less than all-in on the river.
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08-16-2018 , 09:21 AM
I don't think I raise otf.
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