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Should I have raised donk bet in 4bet pot on the flop? Should I have raised donk bet in 4bet pot on the flop?

06-19-2018 , 01:10 AM
NL Holdem $0.25(BB)
SB ($24.85)
BB ($48.54)
UTG ($25)
HJ ($7.65)
CO ($17.99)
HERO ($24.41)

Dealt to Hero Q Q

UTG Folds, HJ Folds, CO Folds, HERO Raises To $0.75 (Rem. Stack: 23.66), SB Folds, BB Raises To $1.3 (Rem. Stack: 47.24), HERO Raises To $2.85 (Rem. Stack: 21.56), BB Calls $1.55 (Rem. Stack: 45.69)

Flop ($5.80) 3 7 5
BB Bets $2.9 (Rem. Stack: 42.79), HERO Calls $2.9 (Rem. Stack: 18.66)

Turn ($11.60) 3 7 5 K
BB Checks, HERO Checks

River ($11.60) 3 7 5 K T
BB Bets $11.6 (Rem. Stack: 31.19), HERO Folds

Good fold or did I get bluffed out of this pot?
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06-19-2018 , 01:16 AM
why the fold on the end there ?
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06-19-2018 , 01:22 AM
I don't think raising the donk bet is going to accomplish much on this board. QQ is not a hand that needs much protection and the board is relatively dry. If V three bets your raise you're in a really tough spot and if they're bluffing you want to call and allow them to hang themselves later in the hand. On the river if you're checking all your AK and KK combos on the turn then folding the river to this bet size is fine. If you're betting all those hands on the turn then I think you probably have to call this river since the only better hand you could have would be TT. V also could have some bluffs since none of the straight draws got there on the river. However, since V is a fish you can probably assume this line is value the majority of the time.
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06-19-2018 , 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by BagOfChips
why the fold on the end there ?
Everyone says they don't bluff the river often in the microstakes. Did he call my 4bet with AK, TT, KQ, KT? I just seemed there were too many ways I am beat here.
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06-19-2018 , 10:53 AM
Why is your 4bet sizing so small? BTNvsBB Villian is basically priced in with almost their whole 3bet range. Go bigger or flat.

I think we should bet turn after V checks. K hits our range more. If they call hope river goes c/c or if V bets then fold.

A/P the tiny 4bet and the check turn leaves you open to basically being bluffed by anything on the river as V can have so many value hands you can't call.
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06-19-2018 , 11:02 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by c_the_dog
Why is your 4bet sizing so small? BTNvsBB Villian is basically priced in with almost their whole 3bet range. Go bigger or flat.

I think we should bet turn after V checks. K hits our range more. If they call hope river goes c/c or if V bets then fold.

A/P the tiny 4bet and the check turn leaves you open to basically being bluffed by anything on the river as V can have so many value hands you can't call.
I made it 2.2X3B. I thought that was standard sizing for 4bets. As far as betting the turn, I would be turning my hand into a bluff. He is also going to have KX in his range.
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06-19-2018 , 11:07 AM
4bet bigger something around 2.8x I think it's good. This "practically minraise" gives odds for BB to continue with a lot of marginal hand.

as played

I would play the same.
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06-19-2018 , 12:05 PM
How many Kx donk the flop then check the T. If V had c/c the flop then yes a check is better on the turn.
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06-19-2018 , 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by c_the_dog
How many Kx donk the flop then check the T. If V had c/c the flop then yes a check is better on the turn.
I think I'm with this. Do we really except villain to stab that board with Kx and then check when they hit their hand? Lets be honest most of the times if they are stabbing with say AK or KQ they aren't all the sudden going to just stop betting. I think I like betting the turn if checked to. If we bet and are called we can then give up if villain decides to lead pot on the river.
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06-26-2018 , 08:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kolob32
Everyone says they don't bluff the river often in the microstakes. Did he call my 4bet with AK, TT, KQ, KT? I just seemed there were too many ways I am beat here.
honestly i think he had Jacks. you both checked the king which shows neither on of you had aces or kings.
I think he had JJ or rivered a set tens which is just unlucky for you.

Im confused at what your hand looks like. 4bets, doesnt raise the donk bet on that flop, then checks the turn. You look more likely to have tens here than your opponent.

Very passively played hand postflop. im not sure. thinking as im typing right now.
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06-26-2018 , 09:05 PM
The king is a very unfortunate turn card. It's never going to be great to put in like half a stack after that card comes..
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06-27-2018 , 06:04 AM
4 bet should be bigger than what you have made it although I don't think it needs to be as big as 3x or 4x like we would of 3betting. As played I'm raising his donk bet for pure value he looks fishy given his poor 3bet sizing pre and stupid flop to donk into.

Also happy getting it in if he jams over our our flop raise.

AP I'm calling river
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06-27-2018 , 12:28 PM
I raise flop and jam good turns. V is obv a weaker player since he donked on this board, I'd just try to stack his 99-JJ hands which I think make up a lot of his range after he leads flop.
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