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08-17-2019 , 10:16 AM

Skiezow

stranger

Join Date: Aug 2019 Posts: 4

PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 165 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 5.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)
Hero (MP): 109 BB
CO: 60.5 BB (VPIP: 45.00, PFR: 35.00, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 20)
BTN: 159.5 BB (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 21)
SB: 149.5 BB (VPIP: 38.10, PFR: 19.05, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)
BB: 24.5 BB (VPIP: 66.67, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A

fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, SB calls 2.5 BB, fold

Flop: (7 BB, 2 players) 9

SB bets 7 BB, Hero raises to 17.5 BB, SB raises to 146.5 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 88.5 BB and is all-in

Turn: (219 BB, 2 players) 2

River: (219 BB, 2 players) 5

SB shows J

(Two Pair, Jacks and Nines)
(Pre 20%, Flop 74%, Turn 82%)
Hero shows A

(One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 80%, Flop 26%, Turn 18%)
SB wins 211.5 BB

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08-17-2019 , 10:34 AM

2019fish2019

old hand

Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 1,412

Good board for his calling range so the pot lead is really strong. If you raise his lead I think its best to just fold if they shove over you. I'd propably be looking to call down here on bricky runouts and fold on bad ones, his line screams strength and its very unlikely he has some random near 0 equity bluff

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08-17-2019 , 10:51 AM

Minimal23

journeyman

Join Date: Aug 2019 Posts: 389

You're flipping with his donk betting range on a board like that when he bets pot.

When you raise, what do you think he will continue with?

This is split into two things: Call/Shove

What does he call with that you can beat?
What does he shove with that you beat?

I don't think you can ever get it in on a board like this with unknown ranges (meaning we have to take things at face value)

Min-raise/fold.

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08-17-2019 , 10:55 AM

Iblis

veteran

Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 3,299

Call flop. Raising doesn't make any sense.

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08-17-2019 , 11:04 AM

Minimal23

journeyman

Join Date: Aug 2019 Posts: 389

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Originally Posted by Iblis

Call flop. Raising doesn't make any sense.

This is what I originally wrote but thought the idea we're call/folding turn would be taken as too passive.

Calling is actually the only thing that makes sense if we take villain's donking range vs our actual hand strength + pot odds.

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08-17-2019 , 12:45 PM

chopari333

centurion

Join Date: Aug 2019 Posts: 133

V probably keeps donking turn and river after we see what comes. Do you fold turn against strong bet? Do you fold river against a 3rd barrel with another brick hitting?

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08-17-2019 , 08:43 PM

ionutd

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 13,624

not a good flop to stack off with an overpair

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08-18-2019 , 03:22 AM

2019fish2019

old hand

Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 1,412

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Originally Posted by chopari333

V probably keeps donking turn and river after we see what comes. Do you fold turn against strong bet? Do you fold river against a 3rd barrel with another brick hitting?

On for example the runout of the hand I would call down most likely yes, or fold river if I think villain is so bad that he doesnt have enough bluffs.

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