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Seems standard but maybe I'm a lagtard Seems standard but maybe I'm a lagtard

04-24-2018 , 05:18 AM
[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

Hero (BTN): $10.10 (101 bb)
SB: $10.27 (102.7 bb)
BB: $9.25 (92.5 bb)
UTG: $15.94 (159.4 bb)
MP: $19.83 (198.3 bb)
CO: $15.17 (151.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with T 9
UTG folds, MP raises to $0.30, CO folds, Hero calls $0.30, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.75) Q 6 Q (2 players)
MP bets $0.36, Hero raises to $1, MP calls $0.64

Turn: ($2.75) 8 (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $1.74, MP calls $1.74

River: ($6.23) 8 (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $3.93


My value range here is AQ, KQs, QJs. I do think I should size up turn and then jam pot on the river, but other than that this feels standard to me. Please berate/defend me
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04-24-2018 , 05:26 AM
bip bip lagtard detected

Srsly the hand selection is good but don't bluff river, you're not blocking any Qx unless villain raises QTo preflop
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04-24-2018 , 05:48 AM
Yea makes sense so more reasonable would be:

Flop bluff raising range: AJs, ATs, KJs, KTs, JTs, T9s (all only with BDFD)

Turn barrel: JTs, T9s, KJ, KT, AT, AJ

River barrel: JT, T9, KJ, KT, AT, AJ

someone confirm?
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04-24-2018 , 08:53 AM
Somebody watches Doug Polk videos on YouTube.

I can't really speak constructively about your hand because I don't play any hands this way, but, perhaps your strategy is superior to mine. The hand is interesting though. What made you play this board this way?
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04-24-2018 , 12:23 PM
You're not wrong about the Doug Polk videos. These plays happen when my brain is high on UpswingPoker

I'm trying to raise all hands that are strong enough without slowplaying any of them and then add a balanced bluff raising range to make villain indifferent, that way I can fold some of the really weak hands that I would otherwise have to call according to minimum defense frequency, because I'm already defending my range with a ton of raises. So villain will have a much harder time realizing the equity of his flop cbetting range

The only downside of this I've found so far is that my calling range is really capped and villain can exploit me with overbets after I call the flop. Luckily the last time I saw a 10NL player overbet was pre black friday.

Last edited by SoSnowy; 04-24-2018 at 12:37 PM.
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04-24-2018 , 01:01 PM
Yeah I definitely see what you are trying to do. I think having strong hands in your calling range can make them indifferent to barreling, as well. I.e. you can take out QJs and put it in your flatting range along with QTs and 66.
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04-24-2018 , 06:21 PM
What are you trying to get him to fold on the river?
How many combos of Qx do you think he has?
Is your river bluff profitable given these assumptions?
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04-25-2018 , 12:21 AM
IP I strongly prefer to just flat my entire range on flop. When I have the goods, I'd rather keep bluffs in villain's range, and when we are light, I think we can win just as many pots by floating flop and betting/raising turn as by raising flop.
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04-25-2018 , 01:15 AM
Its actually terrible to have T9 here otr, you block like 1/5 of his folding range, and the part of it that is most likely to fold. However this should be fine bluff given v calls jj-aa ott and folds it otr. I would also rather bet $4.25 or something than $3.93 because it is more likely to get folds for how cheap of an increase it is. Also 5$ is a nice sizing to use here as well.
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04-25-2018 , 07:34 AM
"..My value range here is AQ, KQs, QJs. I do think I should size up turn and then jam pot on the river, but other than that this feels standard to me. Please berate/defend..."

You are overthinking the situation. Here's a different question.

Will you call a raise and a turn bet with all pairs with that board texture? The board is dry. I will be concern by the river if I'm the one doing the betting
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04-25-2018 , 01:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wheresmybitcoin
"..My value range here is AQ, KQs, QJs.
Didn't see this. QJs is definitely not strong enough to raise/bet/bet. Also you should likely bet bigger on the turn (or not) and shove river.
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