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View Poll Results: Do you barrel turn with AKo no FD suits?

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06-21-2021 , 02:42 PM

DooDooPoker

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We are in the SB - CO opens 2.5xBB - we 3bet A

- CO calls.

Heads up to the flop.

J

We range flop - CO call.

Turn is a 3

Do you barrel turn here?

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06-21-2021 , 03:42 PM

aner0

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we block a bunch of top and second pairs with 2 overs and a ngs so i'd mix a lot of bets here

unblocking flush draws is kind of neutral i feel like, since they're worse hands

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06-21-2021 , 04:48 PM

Brokenstars

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Yeh basically doesn't matter, probably betting more AK with diamond/heart combos though.

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06-21-2021 , 05:35 PM

Franchise804

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Absolutely, my question is the sizing. My inclination is to go big...

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06-21-2021 , 06:51 PM

Brokenstars

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If this is indeed 100bb eff and he went like 1/2p otf or something I'd imagine you just perfectly polarize turn and have mostly jams... should be around 1.4-1.5x pot?

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06-21-2021 , 07:38 PM

Franchise804

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Seems fine

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06-21-2021 , 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Brokenstars

If this is indeed 100bb eff and he went like 1/2p otf or something I'd imagine you just perfectly polarize turn and have mostly jams... should be around 1.4-1.5x pot?

Interesting, I didn't think about jamming.

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06-21-2021 , 10:16 PM

21Outer

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Yes I'm betting. Not too thrilled about it though

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06-22-2021 , 07:43 AM

Franchise804

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Originally Posted by DooDooPoker

Interesting, I didn't think about jamming.

Why are we range betting this flop when villain can have 2 pair + at least TT and sometimes JJ? I think that is a good place to start...

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06-22-2021 , 08:58 AM

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kontost

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are you sure this is a range bet flop?

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06-22-2021 , 09:07 AM

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newguyhere

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I gave it 2 sizes and solver is saying it's a range bet.

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06-22-2021 , 09:59 AM

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dulcewolverine

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I gave it 2 sizes and solver is saying it's a range bet.

That is crazy. Basically no checking at all.

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06-22-2021 , 02:32 PM

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aner0

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now try giving it flop cbet jams hehe

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06-22-2021 , 02:45 PM

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DooDooPoker

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now try giving it flop cbet jams hehe

I think it only does this BTNvsSB3bet

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06-23-2021 , 07:47 PM

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Ramius

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@newguyhere you assigned rather tight range to SB, so not supprised with 100% flop cbet, what strikes me is that solver likes to bet bigger with aces more than with kings, not sure why, couse of unblocking kq?

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06-23-2021 , 08:02 PM

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newguyhere

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It's 208 combos.

That's tight??

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06-23-2021 , 08:13 PM

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Ramius

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Originally Posted by newguyhere

It's 208 combos.

That's tight??

I think ato is 100% freq, j9s is high freq, low freq most suited conn, 88 i think is 100% 3bet vs reasonable opening range

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06-23-2021 , 09:24 PM

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newguyhere

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I think ato is 100% freq, j9s is high freq, low freq most suited conn, 88 i think is 100% 3bet vs reasonable opening range

I don't think ATo is at 100% and I'm not aware of any charts that are 3b any SC's

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06-23-2021 , 10:56 PM

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Brokenstars

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Range looks fine vs CO

could mix some more suited connectors but they are theoretically 0ev so whatever. ATo is low freq vs BTN RFI

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06-24-2021 , 05:12 AM

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Ramius

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Range looks fine vs CO

could mix some more suited connectors but they are theoretically 0ev so whatever. ATo is low freq vs BTN RFI

What is common btn steal you run against? I have plenty ofregs with 60+% steal and mini or 2.5bb raises

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06-24-2021 , 05:36 AM

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Brokenstars

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What is common btn steal you run against? I have plenty ofregs with 60+% steal and mini or 2.5bb raises

I'm pretty sure average BTN rfi at 200z ignition is like 37%, though keep in mind this includes all limping and whatever.

The ranges are typically comparable to a normal range tho, (40-45%), anyone opening 60% on btn should be 3b around 20% probably from SB and likely some weird polar range from BB.

You want to give us an example of such a player? Block out the player name and include number of hands?

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06-24-2021 , 05:55 AM

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Ramius

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i would say on my nl 25 stars pool anything below 40 is low, plenty of villains with 60+ btn steal, around 50 is std

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06-24-2021 , 07:51 AM

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Brokenstars

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Awesome, screenshots thanks, to not be biased, do top 5 players with most hands you have on.

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06-24-2021 , 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Ramius

i would say on my nl 25 stars pool anything below 40 is low, plenty of villains with 60+ btn steal, around 50 is std

no.

it is pretty much the same as on ignition. avg is 37%-38%

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06-24-2021 , 09:58 AM

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Ramius

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no.

it is pretty much the same as on ignition. avg is 37%-38%

Ok, so it's my elective memory i only remember those LAGS with 50+%, yet i dont remember when last time i didnt 3bet ato vs lp

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