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SB Iso vs 2 fish - monotone board SB Iso vs 2 fish - monotone board

08-23-2019 , 09:59 PM
    WPN, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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    Hero (SB): $10 (100 bb)
    BB: $5.42 (54.2 bb)
    UTG: $10.30 (103 bb)
    MP: $26.88 (268.8 bb)
    CO: $10.20 (102 bb)
    BTN: $21.57 (215.7 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with K K
    UTG folds, MP calls $0.10, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.50, BB calls $0.40, MP calls $0.40

    Flop: ($1.50) T Q 4 (3 players)
    Hero checks, BB bets $1.50, MP raises to $3.85, Hero r????

    SB Iso vs 2 fish - monotone board Quote
    08-23-2019 , 11:25 PM
    My first though was to fold because I didn’t think things through in the beginning. After thinking I’m more confused.

    The first thing that i would definitiely do Is cbet that flop. Hand would have been much easier to play if you had cbet. At least it would have been easier to decide what to do after MP. MP would have had a different kind of decision if you had CBET.


    I’ll split
    My answer in two.Kind of thinking out loud here...

    1. Conclusion after first analysis:
    Fold. The only way your hand might be good is if you were to hit a flush on turn or river. KK alone is not good enough anymore In this spot.

    I’m not worried about BB at all because he’s half stacked and might be donking a Qx kind of hand That you would be ahead of. BB seems to want to get his chips in ASAP before another club hits.. Sets are possible too but not likely. I would think that sets make more sense with MP who might have limp called. Without stats don’t know if V could have limp called TT or QQ. He could also be limp calling suited connectors or even a Ac with a low kicker.

    2.conclusion

    So. After thinking things through I’m more inclined to call and see if MP bets a non C turn. I’m not sure if my reasoning is correct. MP could be trying to isolate the short stack with Acx kind of hand. Ac2x+ you are ahead off. MP could also be doing this with QT which you are behind of. Doubt anyone does this with the nut flush. No reason to raise here if he can keep you in the pot

    I really doubt someone would limp TT or QQ. the only set I’m worried about is 44 that only has 3 combos out. Not worried about MP having a made flush. So I think you are ahead on the flop. Any aggression on turn or river is going to make this hand very hard to play though.



    But in the end. Im just making loads of assumptions on a totally unknown playerS looking forward to other answers.
    SB Iso vs 2 fish - monotone board Quote
    08-24-2019 , 01:19 AM
    Is it just me or do fish always seem to go really ham on mono flops constantly? They use huge sizings and seem to donk them way more than other flop types, it's insane.

    I think the flop check is fine or bet small (like ~1/4 pot being OOP vs two players). AP I probably sigh fold after that action and not drawing to the nuts.
    SB Iso vs 2 fish - monotone board Quote
    08-24-2019 , 03:11 AM
    Seems like a fold, BB you could be ahead of but MP is repping strong. In a limped pot they will have quite many fluhes here. Hope youre checking a flush here yourself atleast some of the time.
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    08-24-2019 , 05:45 PM
    No one on board for the idea that MP could be trying to ISO the short stack? Or is it too close? Or is it completely wrong?

    What if Short stack had shoved instead of potting it?
    SB Iso vs 2 fish - monotone board Quote
    08-25-2019 , 10:05 AM
    Call the raise. MP can definitely be ISOing here with a wide range after he incorrectly assumes you are done with the hand. The problem with a 3bet OTF (which is what you did) is now we are ISOing the MP so his continuing range is going to be much stronger. We want to keep his range as wide as possible here, especially when our hand is vulnerable.

    The Q and T of block a lot of potential flopped FD's. So we would rather see this flop texture over a low monotone one.

    Flop check is standard - betting is not good.
    SB Iso vs 2 fish - monotone board Quote
    08-25-2019 , 10:40 AM
    Forgot to mention another important point. If BB ships - it won't be 2x the raise of MP so MP won't be able to re-open the action. Which guarantees you see a turn card.

    That makes this a much easier call OTF.
    SB Iso vs 2 fish - monotone board Quote
    08-25-2019 , 03:20 PM
    Looks like a Ac+T/J/Q, QTs, QcJ, 44, Jc9c, and a bunch of smaller flushes, and KK looks like it's in the mid-40s against them, so I guess anything but folding is fine. I don't think either guy is folding to a shove, so I guess calling is best in case he does have some kind of bluff or no FD.
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