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River action - SB vs UTG opener NL5 River action - SB vs UTG opener NL5

07-23-2018 , 12:21 PM
Hello guys, my name's Marco and this my first post on 2+2!

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PokerStars - €0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 206 BB (VPIP: 27.54, PFR: 15.94, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 70)
Hero (SB): 100 BB
BB: 123.4 BB (VPIP: 54.00, PFR: 16.00, 3Bet Preflop: 13.64, Hands: 51)
UTG: 148.2 BB (VPIP: 18.75, PFR: 11.19, 3Bet Preflop: 1.89, Hands: 148)
MP: 100 BB
CO: 238.8 BB (VPIP: 31.48, PFR: 24.07, 3Bet Preflop: 18.18, Hands: 55)

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB, MP posts penalty blind 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.4 BB) Hero has A Q

UTG raises to 4.4 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 12 BB, fold, UTG calls 7.6 BB

Flop: (26 BB, 2 players) A 6 3
Hero bets 12.4 BB, UTG calls 12.4 BB

Turn: (50.8 BB, 2 players) 4
Hero bets 24.2 BB, UTG calls 24.2 BB

River: (99.2 BB, 2 players) 5
Hero bets 51.4 BB and is all-in, UTG calls 51.4 BB

Villain's NIT REG (17/9), not many info (just 215 hands).

IMHO there were many missed flushdraws, not many combo of A2 and not many sets (3 combos of 66, maybe) and lot of TP with lower kicker and 6 combos of AK.

What action you suggest on the river?

Thank you!
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07-23-2018 , 01:07 PM
What is your intention when you 3b AQo vs a very strong opening range? What do you think villain is opening UTG? What do you think he is calling a 3bet with?

Fold pre is probably fine, flatting to encourage the fishy BB to come along is also fine, I'd say best.

When villains range is so tight and strong firing 3 shots is probably very much overkill and I'd expect villain to have AK here a lot of the time, and almost never AQ, AJ. If you're lucky villain is the type that can't throw away a hand like QQ or KK.
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07-24-2018 , 09:38 AM
I like the preflop action, I would size bigger to 15 BB and get the money in by the turn. Folding pre seems a bit nitty. Calling is terrible because the raise size is so big and you are in the SB.

as played on the river I would probalby check fold against a nitty player and check-call against someone who is capable of bluffing and hating life when he shows two-pair every time.
betting is bad as you only get called by better. Most of his flushes should be Ax suited and I doubt an Axs will bet this river.
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07-24-2018 , 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by MMSS
What is your intention when you 3b AQo vs a very strong opening range? It's my intention to force him to fold PRE flop What do you think villain is opening UTG? Some A2-A5s, AJ+, 22+, JTs+ What do you think he is calling a 3bet with? A2-A5s, AQ+, 77+, JT+

Fold pre is probably fine, flatting to encourage the fishy BB to come along is also fine, I'd say best.

When villains range is so tight and strong firing 3 shots is probably very much overkill and I'd expect villain to have AK here a lot of the time, and almost never AQ, AJ. If you're lucky villain is the type that can't throw away a hand like QQ or KK.
I agree with the call as the best action to do and not 3-barrell with just TPTK. Thank you
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07-24-2018 , 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Rizzen
I like the preflop action, I would size bigger to 15 BB and get the money in by the turn. Folding pre seems a bit nitty. Calling is terrible because the raise size is so big POT ODDS not that bad with 1 BB penalty from the MP and you are in the SB.

as played on the river I would probalby check fold against a nitty player I agree with youand check-call against someone who is capable of bluffing and hating life when he shows two-pair every time.
betting is bad as you only get called by better. Most of his flushes should be Ax suited and I doubt an Axs will bet this river.
C/F is probably the best action on the river, thank you.

Last edited by Vingardium; 07-24-2018 at 10:28 AM.
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07-24-2018 , 10:20 AM
don't 3b pre vs a nit opening utg and you're in sb with a marginal hand. Click call. Folding pre is way too nitty. If u do 3b make it bigger... 16bb or so vs 4.4bb open.
as played otf maybe cbet like 10bb since the board is so dry. turn sizing is fine.

River is close between c/c and c/f. Villain dependant decision but if you think he can turn a hand into a bluff/valuebet aj or smth click call and hate life when he has ak or better
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07-24-2018 , 10:41 AM
I would check/call flop. We aren't going to get 3 streets from a nit with a worse hand and he can have AK here.
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07-24-2018 , 01:31 PM
I'd just fold pre against the nit opening 4.4x UTG. I would be genuinely surprised if he's opening wider than {77+,AJs+,KQs,AQo+}. I don't really want to have a calling range OOP against such a huge sizing, even with a fish in the BB

Check everywhere postflop
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07-25-2018 , 01:56 AM
fold pre and pot control postflop
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07-25-2018 , 04:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by whitemares
I'd just fold pre against the nit opening 4.4x UTG. I would be genuinely surprised if he's opening wider than {77+,AJs+,KQs,AQo+}. I don't really want to have a calling range OOP against such a huge sizing, even with a fish in the BB

Check everywhere postflop
+1
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07-25-2018 , 02:59 PM
Folding PRE-FLOP is too nitty IMHO, Villain's open raise size 4.4 BB is because of 1BB MP penalty, so POT ODDS aren't that bad.

If I'll play this hand again (same Villains), I'll go for a call PRE-FLOP and 2-barrell and C/F on the RIVER.

Thank you guys
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07-25-2018 , 05:02 PM
AQo is not doing so well against an open by a tight player in the lowjack. If folding is too nitty, well, then, call me a nit.
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07-25-2018 , 05:17 PM
Most of you think FOLDING PRE-FLOP is the correct move and some thinks CALL is fine too, IMHO both plays are EV+, can we say that calling AQ, in this situation, is better if you know how to play it correctly?
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