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Is this a reasonable fold?

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04-22-2021 , 06:22 AM

pjj

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Villain is 31/26 after 26 hands. Usually, if I have so little hands on them, it means they're more likely to make fishy plays (but not always). Two questions on this hand: is this a ("GTO") fold with the stack depths as they are, and is this is a reasonable exploitative fold 100bb deep? These types of situations often get brought up, and I feel in this situation, villain will be heavily weighted towards AA.

PokerStars - $0.16 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB
SB: 101.5 BB
BB: 116.31 BB
UTG: 205.94 BB
Hero (MP): 532.25 BB
CO: 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q

UTG raises to 2.5 BB, Hero raises to 8 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, UTG raises to 205.94 BB and is all-in, ???

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04-22-2021 , 06:30 AM

PROPOSITION_JOE

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yeah it looks good, we cant consider calling 200bb deep vs unknown in a pool of players we know to be nitty.
take a note, this is absurd that villain 4bet jams like this.
at 100bb in theory no, and my better level poker playing friends tell me i shouldnt be folding here, but my database tells me its a "reasonable" exploit fold for these pools. either way, calling will never be massively -EV. spots like these (100bb deep ones) arent going to be critical in your overall winrate. dont sweat too much time over them. hope this helps.

FYI -i believe at 200bb's calling with KK starts to become bad. (i auto stack off <150bb with KK).

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04-22-2021 , 06:51 AM

superpoker666

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Originally Posted by pjj

UTG raises to 2.5 BB, Hero raises to 8 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, UTG raises to 205.94 BB and is all-in, ???

Fold unless you have reads.

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04-22-2021 , 06:56 AM

TakeItiletyou

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UTG is a fish, easy fold. I also have few questions wtf is "gto fold"? What is GTO to you? Sure you can fold it 100 bb deep to a jam vs utg.

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04-22-2021 , 07:08 AM

pjj

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Originally Posted by TakeItiletyou

UTG is a fish, easy fold. I also have few questions wtf is "gto fold"? What is GTO to you? Sure you can fold it 100 bb deep to a jam vs utg.

Well, I guess a GTO fold would be one where there is a Nash equilibrium strategy for all players, and all players are following it. But, I'm assuming there isn't much jamming in this situation from villain, so we can assume that we have moved away from a Nash equilibrium. However, this jam by villain will be +EV with a certain range of hands (although it probably won't maximise EV with many, if any, of them). I guess we have to make a few assumptions about villain's range to get a new Nash equilibrium, so I guess I was asking what are the tightest assumed range we can give villain where calling is +EV.

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