Notes: I really didn't want to post this hand, but I feel I need to be held accountable on my bad hands. History: V is 100% 3-betting BvB pre, 6/6 (~150 hands) 38/24 V stats. V previously 3-bet BvB w/4,7 off, triple barreled w/air. My mindset otf is that V 3-bets any Ax preflop. Range betting otf and ott, unblocking FDs. Is any of my line optimal, or is all three streets pure spew?




iPoker - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 3 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (SB): $7.47
BB: $8.82
BTN: $3.70

Hero posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has J Q

BTN raises to $0.15, Hero raises to $0.50, BB calls $0.45, fold

Flop: ($1.15, 2 players) A 8 3
Hero bets $0.35, BB calls $0.35

Turn: ($1.85, 2 players) A
Hero bets $1.50, BB calls $1.50

River: ($4.85, 2 players) 3
Hero bets all in

Thank you for sharing. We have all been there and kudos for doing so.

I think the way to react to this kind of opponent is to widen your 4bet/getting it in range. As played, I think pre is fine.

OTF, though, it doesn't make any sense to have a leading range here. V has the AA and much more AK/AQ type hands. If you think V is over cbetting, punish them by expanding your x/raising range.

Once you get to the T and R, it is probably fine giving that you block AQ/AJ and unblock flush draws. But I think it is the flop play where you have made your biggest mistake. Some times you flop near the bottom of your range and have to x/f.

And, if you are uncomfortable with this kind of player on your left, you can always go find another table.

it's not spew

Can somebody tell me why are we not worried about the BDFD coming in? Some of the Floats on the Flop will be hh which develop their FD on the turn and continue.

Cuz we have ****all even if the bdfd doesn't come in lol

I know we don't have anything but I would like to have a heart in hand to make this play. It seems a bit spewy to me. We never get an A to fold or a flush to fold. The only hands we are targeting are small-mid PP and K high. To have such an effect I think a 75% - 100 % pot sized bet is fine, no need to jam.

A mid pair is exactly the same hand as a flush in this situation, and flushes will fold at some frequency

I do agree that this hand is not the best to do this with and I wouldn't play it like this, but "spew" is a big word. We do make 88-QQ fold which grants us some EV and block AJs, AQs so it's not awful

against perceived fish it's awfull line, as he have more hands like a5o than mid pairs

I didn't read the text above the hand
Yeah I think you're riight, we should just check fold vs insane whale when he may aswell call us with any bluff catcher and has a lot of random aces

The better play otf is c/f? I generally c-bet this type of board with 100% frequency, unless V is a tight player.

forget about range strategies, vs this type of dude just make good hands and print

Omg misread the hand. I thought you flatted the 3b bvb. I think the line is okay although there are better candidates.

Yes, this is not a 3bet pre.

Would you mind elaborating for me why this isn't a 3b? Snowie has QJs, Q10s as 3-bet Btn vs SB, as well as Q9s the majority of the time.

abandon ship vs this guy
as default vs unknown , small turn and river seems like a very oppressive line

3bet bigger vs the fish

x/f flop

vs a reg we block AQ-AJ so triple barreling is fine

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Why?

My charts says its a call.

snowie is old, my pre comes from pio solved gto flops this year.

preflop you mean?

Pretty sure pre is a pure 3 bet, would be interested to see what charts have it as a call.

Okay, my bad (probably should not post while tired).

I looked at it as multi way.

Yes, vs BU, SB should 3bet this. Raise should be to 11bbs, though 9 is not a killer.

3 handed, I would personally find another table.

So, what is BBs supposed range here? He SHOULD be 4betting or folding, but say he is looking at it as squeeze.

He should raise anything else but these: TT-33, A3s+, KJs-KTs, QTs, JTs, T9s, 97s+, 87s, 76s, AQo-AJo, KJo+ (I trimmed a few) and fold everything else.

OR, he could be flatting JJ-TT, AQs-A9s, KJs+, QJs, AQo+.

Most of these hands are callable. Though you might eliminate some KX combos without a heart or spade.

So, why was it spew?