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05-23-2021 , 01:18 PM

Rared

journeyman

Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 390

Thoughts? V fish.

PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 100 BB
Hero (BB): 328.16 BB
UTG: 93.44 BB
MP: 100 BB
CO: 104.64 BB
BTN: 117.84 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A

fold, MP raises to 3 BB, fold, BTN calls 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 11 BB, MP calls 8 BB, fold

Flop: (25.4 BB, 2 players) 4

Hero bets 10 BB, MP calls 10 BB

Turn: (45.4 BB, 2 players) 7

Hero checks, MP bets 21.68 BB, Hero calls 21.68 BB

River: (88.76 BB, 2 players) A

Hero checks, MP bets 57.32 BB and is all-in,

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05-23-2021 , 01:27 PM

I_lose

grinder

Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 506

This seems like a slam dunk call. V should have almost no 5s in their range and you’re at the very top of yours.

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05-23-2021 , 01:33 PM

pjj

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Join Date: Jul 2020 Posts: 1,020

I think pf 3bet is too small vs an open+call. Not sure whether you're going for a range cbet otf. I think it's fine if you are, although could go a little lower. If you're not, I think you could check flop, but clearly betting is fine. Turn is fine, and river, I think is probably a call. If villain can do this with a set or 2 pairs, it's a call. If villain is capable of bluffing, it's a call. The only way this isn't a call is if villain is rarely bluffing, and only betting straights for value. You also block A5s, which is one of villain's most likely 5x.

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05-23-2021 , 01:34 PM

Rared

journeyman

Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 390

Yap thats what I thought. Its a spot where I don't expect V to bluff very often but I would expect him to play that way his sets too.

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05-23-2021 , 01:54 PM

LovemyAK

centurion

Join Date: Apr 2021 Posts: 196

I would fold because he has straight.
even if he has no 5x in his range theoretically he has T9 or A5

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05-23-2021 , 01:55 PM

Rared

journeyman

Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 390

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Originally Posted by LovemyAK

I would fold because he has straight.

Ah okay. But if he does not you are bleeding money like never before.

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05-23-2021 , 02:05 PM

LovemyAK

centurion

Join Date: Apr 2021 Posts: 196

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Originally Posted by Rared

Ah okay. But if he does not you are bleeding money like never before.

Yes but if villain is a fish I don't expect him to bluff with 9x blocker.
Board is so coordinated and the turn card didn't help, so probably better to fold on the turn.

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05-23-2021 , 02:07 PM

aner0

Verified Coach NLHE

Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 3,667

River is the snappiest call you could ever make, like not even close

Turn i kinda wanna fold but him being a fish makes it hard to fold

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05-23-2021 , 02:07 PM

I_lose

grinder

Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 506

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Originally Posted by LovemyAK

I would fold because he has straight.
even if he has no 5x in his range theoretically he has T9 or A5

But is he really calling a 3! pre with A5/9T and a flop Cbet with a gut shot? It just seems like monsters under the bed syndrome to me. We have as many A5 and 9T as V, plus we block A5, and if they’re ever bluffing were printing here. We have to defend 61% of the time and we have maybe two hands better than this in our range. Coupled with the fact that we beat significant portions of Vs value range, I struggle to see a fold here. I’ve been wrong plenty of times so take my $.02 with some salt.

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05-23-2021 , 02:33 PM

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Rared

journeyman

Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 390

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Originally Posted by LovemyAK

Yes but if villain is a fish I don't expect him to bluff with 9x blocker.
Board is so coordinated and the turn card didn't help, so probably better to fold on the turn.

Fish overvalue their hands and he can have sets and twopairs here.

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05-23-2021 , 04:41 PM

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Ramius

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Originally Posted by Rared

Fish overvalue their hands and he can have sets and twopairs here.

Not every fish is a donkey. Pre bigger, flop bet bigger too, it's not a flop villain fold anything better if you have ax,kq kind of hand, so put max pressure on his pockets/overs/gutshots, AP if you called turnm you have to call river, but i would fold turn rather without bigger read than "villain is a fish"

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05-24-2021 , 04:11 AM

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LovemyAK

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Originally Posted by Rared

Fish overvalue their hands and he can have sets and twopairs here.

I understand your statement that's why I call hands like this on the river and they have the nuts 80% of the time. Then I ask myself "why did I call".

Fish ranges are different and stupid. If you think he has no this or that hand because he fold or raise with on the previous streets then you are wrong.
Bad players plays by instinct. If they think their hand is good then they call. Simple.

The board is too coordinated and I would fold on the turn. If it wasn't coordinated it would be a clear call.

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