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06-20-2018 , 07:17 PM
1. Do you prefer zoom or cash tables?
2. How many tables do you play either cash or zoom?

With rakeback pennies is it wiser to play less tables in order to edge your opponents better and boost your bb/100??
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06-20-2018 , 07:24 PM
I play cash games and have no experience with zoom. My best advice is do what your most experienced in. And I really dont pay attention to rake, I just wanna play the best poker I can decisin wise and EV wise.
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06-20-2018 , 11:04 PM
Start with two and build your tables from there. Work o your hud and concentration. Cash>zoom just because of reads imo.
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06-21-2018 , 05:10 AM
I prefer reg tables but I've been playing zoom in the brief time I've had to play lately. I always say the same: play the one you enjoy more. You aren't going to put time into grinding and improving if you don't enjoy the game.
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06-21-2018 , 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by nonsimplesimon
Cash>zoom just because of reads imo.
People like sauce say that you should play zoom for the opposite reason. When you're a beginner it's best to focus on a solid strategy and to mostly ignore reads/dynamics.
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06-21-2018 , 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by .isolated
People like sauce say that you should play zoom for the opposite reason. When you're a beginner it's best to focus on a solid strategy and to mostly ignore reads/dynamics.
+1
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06-21-2018 , 11:48 PM
Who is sauce? Interesting anyhow. I came from the school that a solid strategy is understanding what works and doesn't work for the various opponents we face. That's just me. I am a HUD whore. Also isnt zone a preflop game mostly? I found it hard to play "poker" which is why I disliked it.
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06-22-2018 , 12:02 AM
Having played full ring for a living from 05-BF, believe me, I know the "HUD whore" mindset. I found it to be a relatively easy transition to no HUD.

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Also isnt zone a preflop game mostly?
Is NL mostly a preflop game? The game doesn't change.

However, I'm sure the OP is talking about zoom on Stars where you can use a HUD.

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Who is sauce?
I'm unsure if this is a joke. But, I'm talking about Ben Sulsky aka sauce123 on Stars.
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06-22-2018 , 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by .isolated
Is NL mostly a preflop game?
No. As long as you are playing solid ranges preflop is just whatever.
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06-22-2018 , 12:39 AM
Thank you for teaching me.
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06-22-2018 , 12:40 AM
LOL I am out of the loop! I'll check him out.
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06-22-2018 , 12:44 AM
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Thank you for teaching me.
Just sounded kinda silly to me tbh
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06-22-2018 , 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by WorldzMine
Just sounded kinda silly to me tbh
I wonder why. Did you ever stop to think that maybe I was asking a rhetorical question based on what I quoted or are you actually that dense?
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06-22-2018 , 01:20 AM
Used to 9 table reg now I play zoom only, 4 tables
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06-22-2018 , 04:34 AM
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I wonder why. Did you ever stop to think that maybe I was asking a rhetorical question based on what I quoted or are you actually that dense?
Was skimming, missed the full context to see it was just sarcasm I guess.
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06-22-2018 , 10:11 AM
I have read many books and i surely feel that my game is improved.
My problem is that playing mainly zoom nl5-10 i cannot apply them. Even with 300 hands history against villain not only can i exploit him but i feel idiot about my guessing of his range when we reach showdown. Against unknowns i dislike the game,no sense some hands. Is this only my problem? If i play 1 table zoom nl50 with better players i ll enjoy more learnig the game?
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06-22-2018 , 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by kontost
I have read many books and i surely feel that my game is improved.
My problem is that playing mainly zoom nl5-10 i cannot apply them. Even with 300 hands history against villain not only can i exploit him but i feel idiot about my guessing of his range when we reach showdown. Against unknowns i dislike the game,no sense some hands. Is this only my problem? If i play 1 table zoom nl50 with better players i ll enjoy more learnig the game?
I donnt fancy play 4tables 50000 hands zoom to win 1-3bb/100 at best like a mineworker without getting better.
I want to play 1zoom table and win 10+/bb but enjoy and improve in every session..is it possible?
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06-22-2018 , 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by kontost
I donnt fancy play 4tables 50000 hands zoom to win 1-3bb/100 at best like a mineworker without getting better.
I want to play 1zoom table and win 10+/bb but enjoy and improve in every session..is it possible?
It is possible at the stakes you mentioned (NL5-10). The key is to learn and play your ranges optimally. As long as you are doing this, you should be able to crush these games at these stakes. If you can't beat these stakes then I wouldn't move up to NL50 unless the money means nothing to you. Don't be that guy who feels like your play is too sophisticated for the lower stakes, it isn't, you just have more to learn.

Even though you might not have a big history with individual players you can start to form tendencies based on how the player pool plays and they should be fairly accurate. Just study your database and see what works and what doesn't and what your opponents show up at the river with and adjust your play accordingly.
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06-22-2018 , 11:40 AM
Just with regards to the Zoom vs reg table debate going on earlier, I found Zoom much better for sorting out my preflop game and getting my fundamentals in order, but that might just be because of what Blades said.
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06-22-2018 , 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by dynamite2006
Just study your database and see what works and what doesn't and what your opponents show up at the river with and adjust your play accordingly.


can you give me an example of this ?
doing this means i play according to pool who doesnt know exactly what they do. how can i ever be better adjusting to weak pool?
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06-22-2018 , 02:25 PM
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can you give me an example of this ?
doing this means i play according to pool who doesnt know exactly what they do. how can i ever be better adjusting to weak pool?
This is why initially I gave a +1 to isolated's post. The first thing you need to do is come up with a solid theoretical strategy and understand how to play it optimally. Once we know that then we are adjusting our strategy to take advantage of our opponent's weaknesses. These are minor adjustments though, unless our opponent has some serious flaws.

To give you an example, basically, you are looking for patterns that you can exploit. The easiest ones to find are turn and river raises at these stakes. Most players either have no bluffs or are weighted towards value and so you can fold some hands that theoretically you should be calling. It's important to note though that if you take this too far then you will be the one getting exploited and you will only know this once you have a deep understanding of what theoretical poker looks like.
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