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Old 07-24-2020, 11:01 AM   #6926
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Re: ***Official uNL Stats Checkup Thread***

Hi there,

After enhancing my preflop game a bit (especially the 3bet pf section, which now grant me a better looking red line), i've now played 10k hands of NL5 on pokerstars

Still a low volume, but if you could give me some pointers on what to work on (working on "all" is probably the right answer, but if you see something specific, please tell me so ).

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Old 07-26-2020, 05:01 PM   #6927
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Crushing July.

But I understand a lot of it could be variance considering it's a little under 20k hands.

Is there anything specific I can look at in PT4 to see how much of it is because I'm playing well and how much is because of luck?
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Old 07-27-2020, 12:53 PM   #6928
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Should I move to NL5?
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Old 07-27-2020, 07:38 PM   #6929
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Should I move to NL5?
Move up as fast as your bankroll allows.
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Old 08-27-2020, 05:12 PM   #6930
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Stats after 5k hands, all at 5NL. Obviously I'm running hot over a small sample, but it still feels good to start off on a good foot after taking a significant break from poker. The red line makes me happy. Some may say my 3-bet frequency is a spew, but 80% of the 5NL pool seems to have no idea how to respond to relentless 3-betting, so I step on the gas and make red line go up.

Any thoughts on when it might be a good idea to move up? I would like to play as little 10NL as possible, since there is no 10NLz running on Ignition and I prefer Zone so I can get as much volume as possible, so I was planning on sticking to 5NLz until I have the roll to shot take at 25NLz and afford to lose a few buy-ins before I drop back down.




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Old 08-30-2020, 01:17 PM   #6931
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Nice session man.
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Old 08-30-2020, 06:53 PM   #6932
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Old 09-04-2020, 11:23 AM   #6933
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You need to open more hands when you are IP, i.e. the BU/CO. So loads of preflop work for you to do. Post flop lacks aggression, loads more work for you here too.

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Any really obvious problems here? Losing but a bit over break even with rewards. Rake on pokerstars really makes me a loser.

I'm not that worried about being down. Just looking for anything that's obvious to people who know a bit more than myself.





My cutoff graph is particularly odd. Looking through the hand histories from CO, there are a few memorable coolers but after 9K hands from that position is may be more???

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Old 09-04-2020, 11:26 AM   #6934
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Too passive pre and post flop, open more from the CU and button, 3bet more preflop, bet more post flop, check raise more postflop, raise more post flop. However you probably need a much more thorough understanding of poker theory to understand how and when to do this.

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Is it possible to be such a losing player in NL5?? Im at a loss for words actually. I've had my fair share of occassional punts but this... 25 buyins down in almost 90k hands is something that could be attributed to variance? Really could use some constructive feedback.



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Old 09-04-2020, 11:35 AM   #6935
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Possibly too lose in EP, may want to review what hands are not profitable from your database, and lose hands like A9o, 22-44, KTo, 34s etc. Also cbetting the flop too much which will get found out at higher stakes.

Overall nice and agrressive with positional awareness

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Old 09-04-2020, 11:33 PM   #6936
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Stats after 10k hands, mostly at 5NLz but about 1.3k hands at 10NL mixed in here and there. Started focusing too much on volume, playing too many tables and auto-piloting decisions, which lead to the small downswing toward the end. Trying to spend more time studying and reviewing hands, and focusing on staying present while playing multiple tables.








How much volume should I put in at 10NL before trying to take a shot at 25NL?
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Old 09-07-2020, 12:07 AM   #6937
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Stats after 10k hands, mostly at 5NLz but about 1.3k hands at 10NL mixed in here and there. Started focusing too much on volume, playing too many tables and auto-piloting decisions, which lead to the small downswing toward the end. Trying to spend more time studying and reviewing hands, and focusing on staying present while playing multiple tables.








How much volume should I put in at 10NL before trying to take a shot at 25NL?
I'd be more worried about bankroll than volume winning at 24bb/100 for 10k hands. Yeah, you're likely running a bit hot, but overall seems like you're solid against the pool you're up against. If you take the shot and feel like you're making bad reads/getting the money in bad repeatedly you can drop back down and regroup.
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Old 09-18-2020, 06:28 AM   #6938
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Re: ***Official uNL Stats Checkup Thread***

In 2013/2014 I started from NL4 and worked my way up to NL100 but then stopped playing and just recently came back to poker a week ago.

I'm not sure if I've totally forgotten how to play poker well or if I'm just running bad (or a combination of both) but I'm getting crushed at NL5 now.





I can't remember what reasonable stats look like, if someone can let me know if there's anything glaringly wrong I would appreciate it, or general tips on how the micros have changed since 2013.
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Old 09-18-2020, 07:19 AM   #6939
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Re: ***Official uNL Stats Checkup Thread***

Not expecting to get an answer but giving it a go anyway, what should these stats look like roughly for a good winning player 25-200nl 6-max?

Overall:
- W$WSF
- WonSD%
- Turn probe
- Total AF/Flop AF/Turn AF/River AF
- Flop cbet%/Turn cbet%/River cbet%
- Fold F cbet%/Fold T cbet%/Fold Rcbet%
- Cold call%
- X/R flop%
- River call efficiency
- River Call win%
- River vs bet fold%
- Fold turn IP skip Cbet%
- Turn raise Cbet%

In big blind:
- AF
- W$WSF
- bb/100
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Old 09-18-2020, 11:49 AM   #6940
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In 2013/2014 I started from NL4 and worked my way up to NL100 but then stopped playing and just recently came back to poker a week ago.

I'm not sure if I've totally forgotten how to play poker well or if I'm just running bad (or a combination of both) but I'm getting crushed at NL5 now.





I can't remember what reasonable stats look like, if someone can let me know if there's anything glaringly wrong I would appreciate it, or general tips on how the micros have changed since 2013.
The one thing that jumped out at me was seems like your 4bet+ looks super-high. The important thing to gauge is actually the player pool's (or your specific opponent's) average 3bet range. If they're 3-betting at 10%-15% then perhaps widening your 4-bet range is the proper thing to do. I'm going to assume that $5NL on most sites is full of nits and tags 3-betting less then 6%.

For example, if you open UTG and someone 3bets you, that looks kind of strong already, since they know UTG opens are stronger in general and they chose to 3bet anyways-- in this situation I would be careful about 4betting the bottom of my range.

Secondly, I think you need to replace your "Fold to PF 3bet" stat with "fold to PF 3bet AFTER RAISING" -- as the former stat is rather useless, and the latter stat is easier to understand, with 50% being "balanced."

Furthermore, you can add "Fold to PF 3bet AFTER RAISING in position" and "out of position" to further inspect both your own and your opponent's play-- if there is significant divergence from the norm, there is some stuff to clean up for you, and if it's your opponents you can exploit that part of their game.

Potentially a 70% CBetting flop is too high given you seem to play a looser opening range.

I would also add "open raise" as a stat and put it right next to your PFR, as that's more important to gauge your range.

I'm just an amateur here and I haven't found out how to beat the micros yet so that's the grain of salt lol.
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Old 09-19-2020, 01:02 AM   #6941
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The one thing that jumped out at me was seems like your 4bet+ looks super-high. The important thing to gauge is actually the player pool's (or your specific opponent's) average 3bet range. If they're 3-betting at 10%-15% then perhaps widening your 4-bet range is the proper thing to do. I'm going to assume that $5NL on most sites is full of nits and tags 3-betting less then 6%.

For example, if you open UTG and someone 3bets you, that looks kind of strong already, since they know UTG opens are stronger in general and they chose to 3bet anyways-- in this situation I would be careful about 4betting the bottom of my range.

Secondly, I think you need to replace your "Fold to PF 3bet" stat with "fold to PF 3bet AFTER RAISING" -- as the former stat is rather useless, and the latter stat is easier to understand, with 50% being "balanced."

Furthermore, you can add "Fold to PF 3bet AFTER RAISING in position" and "out of position" to further inspect both your own and your opponent's play-- if there is significant divergence from the norm, there is some stuff to clean up for you, and if it's your opponents you can exploit that part of their game.

Potentially a 70% CBetting flop is too high given you seem to play a looser opening range.

I would also add "open raise" as a stat and put it right next to your PFR, as that's more important to gauge your range.

I'm just an amateur here and I haven't found out how to beat the micros yet so that's the grain of salt lol.
Ah yeah fold to 3bet after raising does make more sense. So 50% is an optimal stat there? Does that apply to fold to 4bet after 3betting as well?

I have 61% fold to 3bet after raising, and 67% fold to 4bet after 3betting, maybe I need to adjust those spots.
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Old 09-19-2020, 08:00 AM   #6942
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another quick stat question - is there a way I can show the collective stats of all opponents? that would be nice for zoom since I don't get many hands on any individual
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Old 09-19-2020, 02:00 PM   #6943
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Ah yeah fold to 3bet after raising does make more sense. So 50% is an optimal stat there? Does that apply to fold to 4bet after 3betting as well?

I have 61% fold to 3bet after raising, and 67% fold to 4bet after 3betting, maybe I need to adjust those spots.
Yes same thing for 4bet%; Also, folding that high to 3bet might not be wrong if they're all nits and only raising value range, though if they'ure using HUD, it can make you exploitable but might not have to worry THAT much about micro players exploiting you; oh you did mention this is for Zoom.

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another quick stat question - is there a way I can show the collective stats of all opponents? that would be nice for zoom since I don't get many hands on any individual
when making report choose "all player report" !!!

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Old 09-21-2020, 02:03 PM   #6944
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Hi All,

This is 5NL, I have a little more that 10k hands now,
I don't have a feel for these values other than the vpip and prf, but when I compare them to others in this thread and read the replies I think I am playing too tight pre and too passive post.

Any comment appreciated

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Old 09-23-2020, 03:43 PM   #6945
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Currently getting crushed at 2NL on 888 with a win-rate of -4.79 after 18k hands the last two weeks.

Any feedback is appreciated.

The leaks analysis on PT4 seems to be indicating that I'm too loose & calling too much post flop, which can be seen by my low fold to flop bet and WSD After River Call stats.

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Old 09-23-2020, 07:38 PM   #6946
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https://imgur.com/a/eluboe4

I primarily play live poker, but with the Covid lockdown, I decided to give online poker a shot. I've played online before Black Friday, but not seriously, and not for any serious amount of money either.

Here is a stats sample of 2402 hands I've played. I started off at 2NL but quickly found that it didn't move the needle in terms of satisfaction, and started playing 10NL Zoom 6-max (around hand 900 or so). I'm new to a bunch of these stats other than VPIP/PFR, and I'm trying to understand how these all play together: like for example, 1) am I running far above/below EV (I think blue and yellow lines can give a quasi-measure of this but I don't fully understand it), 2) am I defending the blinds often enough (slope of red line probably tells you this), 3) am I going to showdown at a good rate or should I be trying to take pots away before showdown, etc.

Zero bankroll management. I deposited like 50 bucks to give online poker a trial run. I don't care if I lose it all. I pretty much sit with 20% of my account balance at 10NL. Don't care about bankroll management at all because a) it's coming out of my live winnings, b) having played as high as 5/10/20 live, I don't get the zip by playing for 0.01/0.02, and c) willing to risk going busto to aggressively build my online roll by moving up quick (not afraid to sit at tables with 25-50% of my account balance) since this first deposit is a huge experiment anyway.

Just trying to understand the stats better and really pick apart my game. I'm also using the trial version of poker tracker (and working a 40+ hour full time job), hence the small sample. I want to understand it as best as I can before deciding whether to buy it.

I'm interested in any analysis of my stats and any ideas I can glean from them. Thanks!
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Old 10-06-2020, 12:25 AM   #6947
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Hi,

Leading to my birthday, I had set a 20-day micro/small stakes Poker challenge to profit $300 dollars to buy myself a guitar! That was a big challenge for me as I am a fish!

After 8 days and about 10K hands, I did it!
I was wondering: Was I lucky? How fish am I?

Here's my stats for cash games (I had also earned ~$50 in tournaments):




https://i.imgur.com/f9NwdgF.png
https://i.imgur.com/vp1pOWm.png

Also, while I've had a profit of about $300 in less than 10K hands, I've paid more than $450 in rake. Is that normal? If yes, any recommendations on how to minimize rake/profit ratio?

Thanks guys, any feedback is much appreciated!!
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Old 10-06-2020, 09:10 AM   #6948
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Stats on 31400 hands at 2NL regular tables.

For some reason "Insert image" isn't working for me, so I'll just insert regular links.

Graph

Preflop stats

Postflop stats

My plan is to move up to 5NL as soon as I reach 40BI (currently I have 30).

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Old 10-14-2020, 03:22 AM   #6949
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I seem to be struggling in BB. Do you notice anything obvious here besides awful winrate?




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Old 10-16-2020, 07:53 AM   #6950
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I seem to be struggling in BB. Do you notice anything obvious here besides awful winrate?
Your River Call Efficiency is 1.01, which means you're basically breaking even when you call a river bet. In theory that's fine, but in practice we want this value to be higher than 1. For reference:
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