cbet turn & river don't look too low to me
maybe river is a bit on the low side, not sure

8k hands is literally nothing
you could be the best player in the world and lose over 8k hands (probably)

Stats and graph above guys for just over 50k hands.

Used to play somewhat back in 2009/2010 and came back around 3 months ago. Turns out a lot has changed haha.

I think i need to widen my ranges a bit which I have been doing albeit it probably isn't reflected in the stats yet. I also think I have issues facing aggression and either not going to showdown enough or thinking everyone is bluffing me off a hand and calling too light in spots (depending on what mood I'm in at the time).

I am studying when I can and I'm currently working through From the Ground Up on RIO but I have issues sometimes self-evaluating my play so look forward to any thoughts and comments.

Too tight from everywhere but UTG and that 80% cbet OTB is unacceptable

What fish said, but I think UTG (EP) is also too tight.
Run It Once From the ground up has a great free video on opening ranges.

You're probably cbetting way too much out of position.
Probably why you're losing from EP.

Seems like you give up on the river a lot from CO & BTN?

Your river call efficiency is way too low on BTN & BB.
Call less often with marginal hands from these positions.
Might just be a global leak that is only showing here.

CO & SB river call efficiency is too high, call more hands from those positions.
Or could just be variance.

Stop calling from the SB and start using a 3bet or fold strategy there.

3bet percentage is a bit low overall.


I suspect you're bluffing too often and not value betting enough, but could be completely wrong on this.

Thanks a lot for the feedback guys.

Agreed I'm too tight and my 3bet is too low, working on that but I don't know how long it will take for that to be reflected stats wise. Is there a way to limit the stats by position for the previous 10k hands for example? I have tried in PT4 but cannot find a way to do.

Had not realised about that 80% cbet which is ridiculous

Noted re SB and again that is something I have been doing recently.

NL5 20k hands. Do I suck? Please tell it to me gently
In all seriousness though, I don't think I suck but just can't beat this stake... Any help or analysis is appreciated.

Too tight from late positions. CO 25-28%, BTN 40%, SB 40%. 3bet more, people are stealing wide from LP so your SB resteal should be atleast 10%.

Hi guys,

I play 2NL zoom on pokerstars. Looking for some advice if anyone's kind enough to offer any . I noticed my 3bet%s are low compared to others but I am trying to get some more 3bets in recently. Any other stats need tuning?

asked in another thread
thought i will put it here also
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needs work :
3betting and defending 3bets from BTN obv
red line nosedive


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results from NL2,NL5,NL10 combined

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Been playing for a few months now.
First ~20k hands on nl5, I play very different today than I did when I first moved up, trying to increase 3bet and decrease cbet but honestly, cbeting small is so profitable. Total fold is almost 50% so I'm just printing with it.

Anyways, I know what some comments are gonna be but lets hear it.





Edit: Not sure why images aren't showing..
https://ibb.co/p34M27B
https://ibb.co/KWnFTRj

You need to link the actual images, not the page with the image on it.

cbet IP could be a bit higher probably
cbet OOP is way too high
3bet is too low
river call efficiency seems a bit too low, you probably want to call a bit less often, probably not too much though

Hi guys, I'm guessing this is the place to post this. I'm having a difficult time moving up in stakes out of NL2.

I'm a longtime NL2 grinder that is trying to move up to NL5. I am crushing NL2 (I only have a few hands stored on my DB for you to look at but I would say the sample is pretty representative of how I've been doing). The problem is when I try to move up to NL5, I get absolutely crushed. I am trying to use more or less the same strategy, but I'm losing at an unbelievable rate. It is a microscopic sample, (<1K hands), but the loss ratio is just so high (>100bb/100) that I can't help but feel like I've picked up bad habits at NL2 that are biting me in the ass now. I've lost $35 (7! buyins in <1K Hands) trying to move up, which doesn't sound like a lot, but takes forever to grind back up playing NL2. I guess my biggest question is could it just be variance when I try to move up? Did I just run hotter then the sun at NL2 and I'm not good enough to move up? What are some common mistakes players make when they try to move to NL5? Thanks again for the help, I really appreciate any feedback the 2+2 community may have for me. Stats below:







Are there other stats you would need to help me diagnose a problem? Is it really just sample size and I need to power through it until things turn around? Thank you again guys, I appreciate you taking a look at helping a struggling player.

This is mostly a sample size issue, assuming you're actually playing the same game as you move up. My guess is you're a little bit on the loose side in the sample you've posted here, like I think 26/21 or so is considered "optimal" these days and you're at 28/23, but I don't really see anything "wrong" in these stats, except that there's only 6700 hands of them.

Winrate converges the slowest out of all of these stats -- the VPIP/PFR numbers in this sample are almost certainly within 1% of your true VPIP/PFR over a longer period of time, but winrate takes a long time to converge, even at 100,000 hands it could be a few bb/100 off from your true winrate. So unfortunately the answer is to grind more 2NL until you can take another shot at 5NL.

I agree with Yeodan that your 3b is too low, but I suspect that the issue is only really bad in MP. I'm fine with flatting a lot on the button, and (to a lesser extent) from LP, but I suspect you're getting squeezed to death by cold-calling so much from MP. I haven't put in enough hands since I got back into poker to be confident that I'm a winning player, so don't take my word for the above, but if you filter for hands where you get squeezed, I wouldn't be surprised if you're hemorrhaging money there.

Disregard this post. I didn't look closely enough at your stats. Your PFR:VPIP ratio from MP is very high, so I doubt you're actually cold-calling all that much.

you don't have a lot of hands UTG, looks like you aren't playing zoom. To leakbust / in general I would recommend playing like 70k hands of 2nl zoom if you have to regrind a part of your roll to reshot 5nl. It would be much easier to dissect your stats with even a 40k (still somewhat small) sample. this sample is not big enough.

Hi Guys.

I hope someone can maybe point me to some (obvious?) leaks.

I am struggling with the micros AF. However I can play tournaments quite well with some recent nice final table results, especially in the Knock Out Tournaments.

It really annoys me to not be able to master 2NL, as its the rock bottom of skilllevel and I feel so dumb that I am not able to crush it

I do a lot of studying of the tables (60:40 ratio) and I enjoy the game as a sport and for the game. The money is not important for me.
I have a nice payed job and I am pretty successful in all other areas in my life, so it drives me MAD that I seem to be too dumb for 2NL online poker

So here is my graph for this month:



Although I seem to be quite unlucky, it seems pretty clear that I am a losing player

I lose all of the time when going to showdown, although I already do some quite sick hero folds, and always assume they have it...

My stats:



Thank you!

Some part of this is run bad/small sample -- you're 40€ below AI adjusted EV, you've only got 17K hands, and the rake effects at this stake have to be atrocious. TBH, if there were no rake and you got your equity when AI, you'd be slightly better than breakeven, so at least that's a good sign.

That said, I think your 4-bet PF number is probably out of line, and the fact that you're losing money in the SB even after taking out your blinds is not good.

I'd probably filter on pots where you 4-bet and examine some of them individually -- sort ascending on AI equity when all the money got in preflop and see how many times you're shipping it in with (AJ? AQ? Axs?) and they've got you crushed. 3-betting liberally is fine/good, but if you're getting broke with trash holdings because you've gotten yourself into a tough spot, you should tighten up all your 3-/4-/5-bets.

ur sample isn't big enough, but cursorily looking over this small sample, your blinds are ****ed. you are also c-betting too much OOP, calling 3-bets cold in the big blind, and are calling 3-bets out of position too much. When you cold call in BB you're probably being presented with 4-bet or fold spots where you under-realize equity in bloated pots and just punt off big parts of your stack to IP players. You need to devote a lot of time to play in the blinds and develop a more solid c-bet strategy OOP.

PS NL10Z and a bit of NL5Z. I'm lost. I know I made some drastic changes to my plays before and after the downward slope starts, but I'm not quite sure which ones were leaks. Should I try separating the 2 periods and look at the stats? The last image was entirely for the later period as I can filter for last xx hands, not sure how can I single out the 1st period.


Any comments is really appreciated. Thanks.

You are 3betting too much garbage when the average leak is being too stationy. You also dont fold vs 3bets enough when the average leak is 3betting way too tight. Average 3b fold should be like 60-70% since there are so many villains who only 3b the nuts. You also arguably dont fold enough vs cbets and definitely cbet way too wide yourself. All of these mistakes compound and you end up with too many weak hands on the river, leading to an abysmal 42% W$SD.

The play is much tighter than you assume and you need to start playing accordingly.

yh 3b look 2-3%+ too high from all pos
fold more in sb vs utg/hj opens
more flatting, less 3b in bb vs utg/hj
bit too wide 3b ip, simple fix is to dump 98s and lower, the weaker offsuit broadways and the crappier AXs vs utg

breaking even over first small stretch of hands at 50z - not running great but my redline is going up while my showdown winnings are down.

Does that mean i'm bluffing too much? Lots of people in this pool will peel super wide on the flop then fold turn way too frequently

lolsample, but most likely you are not folding enough marginal hands