Hi all,
I am a beginner and I would appreciate if you guys found what am i doing wrong from my stats.

i started nl2 moved to nl5 and have sufficient BR for nl10. i reached 100$ in 5k hands..after that for 15k hands i am stagnant .

i play for 1 hr a day and max 2 tables at a time..may be 200-300 hands a day max..

I can see that I am not 3betting much (3%), losing from blinds royally.

If i exclude SB, BB my red line is awfully flat.. may be I should grab more pots??
FWIW, I am reading grinders manual and jonathan little's book one chapter at a time.

thanks for your time guys

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1) overall graph



2) graph without sb and bb



3) overall summary and by position

position summary as wanted by arty

Does it still hold true that you should have a downwards red line at the micro stakes or is that concept outdated?

I don't think that you SHOULD have a downwards line, it's more like it'll be tough to win a lot of pots without getting to showdown when population actually love to get to showdown (e.g: hate folding, want to gamble).
I've heard of some people with sick red lines at micros though.

I just remember it used to be like that from years back.
It was actually a rule that you needed a downwards red line to win at the micros, for the reasons you mentioned.

Could be that there were/are exceptions of course.

How would this affect my win rate over 20k hands?
I'm currently -6BB/100 over this sample. Could most or my entire losses be made up by getting back to average luck?

I believe Pokertracker has a standard deviation statistic somewhere you could use to judge how likely it is that your true winrate is north of zero while your observed winrate is -6BB/100.

I think that's a small enough sample that it's possible you're getting unlucky. You can try to judge "luck" by a few different things (W$@SD, AI-adjusted $), but in the short run you have to try to find spots where you're seeing your opponents make errors that you're not making to know that you're winning in these games.

How does that work?
I found the statistic, it's 0.14 but I have no idea what it means

Hmm the standard deviation in bb/100 is 64
But that could mean I'm actually a huge loser instead just as well?

Hi,

I multi table Zoom after long period from any poker, beside home games. I used to play Nl25 Zoom, and I was a loosing player before RB. These are results . I need some guidance where to start.

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Hi all, first post on 2+2.

I have played ~25k hands on PokerStars NL5 and Ignition NL10 and was hoping for a quick rundown on my stats, as well as advice for patching any leaks. My graph is extremely swingy which may be indicitive of my style of play, but I generally feel like I am a decent player who loses some big pots with unneccessary bluffs and some poor calls on the river.

https://imgur.com/a/lMdQKlM

Known areas for improvement:

-River call eff/W$SD

Just a few crying calls when super deep have accounted for a large chunk of my losses over this sample. I know I need to be folding more marginal hands on the river. I also know that I run a lot of triple barrel bluffs that get called down hilariously light sometimes; this may be a reflection of the stakes but I feel the more likely explanation is that I am getting into some funky situations with some broadway cards and suited connectors that likely should have folded earlier in the hand.

-Dealing with limpers/playing OOP with reasonable SDV multiway

I generally don't think much of limps and open my standard range +1-1.5 to my typical sizing per limper. I find (especially on Ignition) that I am still getting into a lot of multiway pots and running into trouble. Should I be trying to isolate with a range consiting more of broadway cards, while limping along with small pocket pairs and low suited connectors with high implied odds multiway?

- Value-owning myself

I find I often put my opponents into spots where they will only continue with hands that beat me, and fold out other marginal holdings when my own SDV is questionable. I'm assuming the correct play is to simply check-lose more OOP.
I also find myself triple barrel overbetting the nuts for 1-2.5x pot on rivers that complete multiple draws (straights, flushes, boats + quads). My reasoning is that a huge bet can look extemely bluffy on this type of board, meaning I will get paid off by some stronger holdings. This may be flawed as perhaps a half pot bet size would get paid off my some flushes or maybe even straights that I am forcing to begrudgingly fold and losing tons of value.


I know the sample is small but hopefully still gives a reasonable reflection of my tendencies. Am happy to post certain filters or neccessary HHs.

Thanks for reading, may the flips be in your favour

Here's a few suggestions:

- Remove the bottom of your range for each position and play some less hands. 26/20 could be fine for a good player, but it might be a bit too wide for you
- You're playign too many hands from EP
- I think you're calling a bit too much from the BB
- Your 3bet seems to be a bit high, could be fine though.
- Think your fold to 3bet is a bit too low, could also be fine.

Do some research on these points.
Also let me know what you find out, I'm very interested!

25k hands is nothing though.
You could just be running bad and experiencing variance.
But more likely you have some (serious) errors in your game that need fixing.

So to sum up, the goal of each of these suggestions is essentially to reach a flop with a stronger range.

A lot of my RFI-call3bet lines are with smaller PPs and medium/high SCs trying to take a multiway flop with a few fish with high implied odds. I fear that these made need to be played too fit-or-fold multiway so I may just be bleeding money. I am going to try continuing this strategy IP and simply give up my pairs and non-value hands when OOP.

I recently realized that my 3 bet strategy was fairly poor. I was 3betting a lot of KQs/ AQo/ TT thinking that because my range is so far ahead I should raise. However I now realize that I am simply just folding villain's bluff range and am facing flops against ranges that can easily dominate mine. I am going to reassess my strategy and hand history for this.

As you said, I know that I have a few serious leaks but I also feel that a small number of leaks are causing a large hit to my winrate. I believe these leaks to mostly be misplaying the river by overbluffing, calling down too light and value owning myself. Logically, your suggestions of simply tightening up should mean that I am reaching the river with less bluffs and more of my value range. Am I right to assume that this should naturally clean up my river play by putting myself in fewer questionable situations?

Dont bluff so much when the player pool leak is calling too light. x/f some obvious bluff spots is better at those stakes when villains just dont care too much about your range. Playing a strategy skewed towards value wins massively at NL2-10.

You need to learn to play all lines of the game tree, you cant just double barrel most of the time and expect it to be profitable. Dont be afraid to check medium hands on the flop, villains wont always bet into you if you balance that range properly. This way when you give up some hands on the flop already you will find that you will still get to bluff them on turns and rivers sometimes.

Isolating limpers should be done with a strong and linear range, theres no point getting in there with T5s when they just wont fold their third pair and you are barreling into the void.

I'd suggest not overbetting at all before you have a better understanding of the game. The EV differences are not that big but if you play overbet strategies wrong they will hurt your EV big.

You need to cut pretty much half of your range from UTG and a fourth from MP. CO looks alright and button you need to open wider. People dont defend well at those stakes and dont resteal aggressively enough. Even though you will have some weak hands in there they will be profitable in position when you take into account how often you just take down the blinds.

Thanks for the reply. I played around in equilab to adjust my opening ranges and this is what I have come up with:

UTG: 11.5%
HJ: 17.5%
CO: 23.5%
BU: 35.5%
SB: 40%

This is essentially the best aces, most pairs, and the best broadways from early.

Perhaps my problem is poorly assessing which hands are medium strength and which can be bet for value. If one of my suited connectors pairs with a medium kicker, I generally am cbetting IP to protect my hand and catch fold from their overcards. I think it would be wrong to take a turn in these scenarios.

OOP, I am check/calling some of my top pair poor kicker, and my medium pair good kicker hands on boards that make sense to. What hands/boards would I reasonably RFI pre - check fold flop, assuming no stats on villain?

Hi guys, what are the points that i should improve? +100k Hands on NL2z and some 5k hands on NL5z.

Thanks in advance!

I would generally play a bit more aggressive. Your 3bet, Cbet and Agg are pretty low. Your opening ranges already look pretty tight so you should be punishing the fish by betting on dry boards like K72 or A95 and not giving them free cards. Chances are they totally missed the flop and you can take it down right there with ATC. A half pot bet only needs to work 33% of the time to print money.

Thanks Nuggy!

Those ranges look alright. Button could be even wider but you can start opening more when you get more experience.

Protection is overrated and usually applied wrong. You don't want to put more money into the pot with mediocre hands. Your strategy should be to try to show them down for as cheap as possible. There are some spots where protection comes into play, for example 99 on 862r, it makes lots of sense to just cbet to fold out random overcards like JT and QJ but V is obviously also calling you with worse here too. The biggest leak I see at micros is cbetting too much and leaving their checking range way too weak. This strategy works vs whales but is very easily exploited by regs.

In position you should be betting the top of your range to get value and then use the worst hands and hands that have equity as bluffs.

To understand when to x/f you need to understand your own and villains ranges. Boards that hit their range and dont hit yours you should be checking a lot even with strong hands because your weak hands are looking to x/f. It doesn't make sense to bluff often when Villain has more hands to call you down with. When you play this way your weak hands are protected by your strong ones and villain cant always bet when you check to him EVEN when he has a piece of the board.

An example would be 984 two-toned and you opened UTG: a big part of your range is whiffed overcards and villains coldcalling range should consist of suited connectors and medium pairs that are looking good on this flop. If you have KQ here betting doesnt make much sense since even though you have some equity to improve you could be already drawing dead and you are not getting many folds. Using this train of thought you start to realize that you want to check here with aces and top set a lot too since these hands are often so far ahead that they don't really need protection and instead gain some value by letting villain bluff into you.

Thanks for the reply. This is what I meant by value owning myself as well, by betting most of my made hands, I was only allowing better hands to continue.

I have played about 10k hands making these adjustments, and for the first time I have a consistently trending upwards red and blue line (I know this sample size is irrelevant). I also feel a lot more comfortable while playing, and finding myself in way less "what should I do here" situations.

Hello. Tournament player looking to improve my cash game from the bottom up. I just played my first 10k hands and it went pretty poorly, so looking to plug some leaks.

Please see stats/graph/position and let me know what else I can provide. I have a strong feeling I'm playing way too many hands preflop but hopefully someone else can see some leaks.

Thanks for all your help

This is for 10 NL Pokerstars 6 Max Zoom

Stats

Position

Graph

We'd need a lot more stats to be able to tell you anything.
The statistics tab sorted by position provides a lot more info by default.

Check some of the above images that got replies to see what stats to post.
Most important are VPIP / PFR / 3bet
You can also add more like: cbet flop / turn / river, cbet success rate (per street), fold to 3bet, fold to flop / turn / river bet, ...

Please tell me how I suck. Been playing 10NL for 8k hands and it's just been a spiraling cycle downwards. Do my stats give anything painfully obvious away that I'm missing?

Position Stats Here

sb steal too low
prob not 3betting enough from any pos
cbet way too high, esp oop, with a low turn and river cb

classic one and done reg
can't make money like that anymore

Damn I thought I was doing alright here. I really gotta sort out my ranges again. Just returning from a 10 year hiatus.

Yeah 3bet pots make me uncomfortable. Especially OOP. I need to sort out a plan on how to play them better both IP and OOP.

Interesting. I'll tone down the OOP cbets so. Yeah I guess when I get called I put them on any draw that completes on the turn. Def. a weakness to watch out for.

Fair point. A lot for me to relearn I guess. Sounds like I need to be more aggressive in general.