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04-09-2019 , 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by xxyungeloest
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Thanks for posting with the stats I asked for.
Firstly, it's nice to see someone running above EV for a change. Must be nice! If I only looked at the raw bb/100 numbers, I'd say the lossrate in the BB was worrying, but you just ran badly there. (You made up for it by god-moding the button!).
As for the positional stats...
RFI/UOPFR numbers are solid. I'm kind of surprised you're doing so well on the BTN while opening 52%, but if villains aren't stopping you, keep at it!
Cold call percentages also look very good. You probably need to move some of your MP flats into a '3-bet or fold' group (to get your MP cold-calls down to about 3%), but it's only a minor thing, as I doubt you're getting squeezed out of pots at a ludicrous frequency.
Your fold to 3-bet number at 50% is a little bit lower than I'd usually recommend for the micros. Can you run the quick filter "Call 3-bet" to confirm you're not losing more than whatever your open size is when you run that filter? (You need the loss rate to be no worse than -250bb/100 or -300bb/100 depending on your open size). If your losses are >300bb/100 when you call 3-bets, you need to fold or 4-bet more. (Your numbers for the latter are fine, but you can get it up to 12.5% or so and crush people who 3-bet light too much).
C-bet stats are good, although you could probably do a little bit more checking when OOP (your numbers are still quite high UTG and in MP). You're not folding to c-bets as much as I do, so maybe you need to give up immediately on the flop a little bit more, but your strat seems to be working nicely.
All your post-flop stats for aggression, winning at showdown and overall win when seeing flops are nice. You're actually winning when seeing a flop more often than most regs, so I'd guess you've developed an aggressive style that exploits the pool quite well. (Maybe you're check-raising or raising the turn a lot??)
Everything looks pretty good, to be honest. It's just that "Call 3-bet" filter you need to double-check. And then keep grinding in your usual way. Nice results so far!
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04-09-2019 , 11:09 PM
Thanks Arty for the great analyse, really appreciate that. As you mentioned the problem so far might be the loose call 3bet tendencies.




Definitely have to work on that
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04-10-2019 , 01:49 AM
Hello everyone. I play 5nlz on ignition. I play tight preflop as I find it harder to navigate many postflop situations in anonymous zoom with speculative hands. I fear my cbet percents vary too greatly. I also appear to be losing pretty bad out of the BB. My strategy has not been perfectly consistent over this 37k(3 week long) hand sample. Let me know if there are any important stats I missed! I have been lurking this thread for a while. Arty you are a legend.



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04-10-2019 , 01:43 PM
Hey!

Just change my report as suggested, also I have taken the first amount of hands played at the beginning of the year. Sample of 20k hands, running a little bit about EV.

Please let me know what u think and thanks!

https://ibb.co/8YBVgBS

Last edited by Fae90; 04-10-2019 at 01:49 PM.
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04-10-2019 , 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by xxyungeloest
Thanks Arty for the great analyse, really appreciate that. As you mentioned the problem so far might be the loose call 3bet tendencies.

Definitely have to work on that
Wow. It's necessarily a small sample, but some of those numbers for UTG/MP and SB look bad! It's actually quite common for micro players to call 3-bets OOP way too often. Villains aren't getting way out of line when they 3-bet your UTG or MP opens, so you definitely need to do more folding to 3-bets in those situations. (I routinely fold AQo, for example, if I open UTG/MP and get 3-bet by anyone. That's a hand that seems good, but it flops badly and suffers from reverse implied odds if you call 3-bets with it when you're OOP. It's much better on the BTN vs a SB 3-bet). If you give opponents a bit more credit, and don't try to outplay them OOP quite so often, you can cut those "call 3-bet" losses considerably and your overall winrate should go up nicely.

EDIT: I'll get round to looking at other people's stats eventually.
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04-16-2019 , 06:26 PM
46K hands since the start of the year, does anyone have anything in particular to say about this (or is this just small sample -- obv I'm probably running a little bit hot although I will say the games I'm playing in here in NJ seem to be soft relative to some of what ya'll are up against on the global sites)?



Also how do I embed an image to post in here?

https://imgur.com/a/4xcSVzp is the link.
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04-19-2019 , 12:30 PM
Hi guys,

I'm new to cash from tournaments are any of you able to help me with what stats are good to put into a report to identify leaks?

Thanks for any reply
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04-20-2019 , 10:14 PM
I feel like I am doing atrociously in the blinds.
Here are my stats for the last 23k hands.


I've been performing very badly the last 40k hands and really want to improve so any analysis is much appreciated.
As a sidenote, I've been wanting to get leakbuster but am holding out for leakbuster 2 so I can use it w/ Drivehud. Is it worth to just skip the wait and get pokertracker/leakbuster and abandon drivehud?
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05-06-2019 , 12:57 AM
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Originally Posted by a_kimsta
I feel like I am doing atrociously in the blinds.
Here are my stats for the last 23k hands.
A few thoughts for you:

1. This is a fairly small sample in the grand scheme of things, so you may be running a bit below expectation just in terms of raw dollars lost.

2. That said, I think you may not be showing down enough and may not be playing enough hands out of the blinds -- I think you probably want to see showdown at around the same % as in other positions. Is your WSD fairly high in the blinds? My guess is you may be missing some profitable river calls, which would potentially be indicated by WSD over 55% or so.

3. I personally play a bit more passive out of the blinds -- which suggests to me you may want to look at your fold to c-bet % (basically, you may not be sticky enough/may be playing too many flop check-raises -- could also look at flop c/r %). I fold a bit more out of the blinds to c-bets than in other spots due to the continued OOP nature of the hands, but I'm still only folding to c-bet around 55-60%, which also tends to help keep your opponents' c-bets in line.
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05-10-2019 , 03:03 PM
Hello everyone! This is my first post.

I have been playing poker on and off for many years (mostly online). I consider myself competent and a little bit better than break even at micro stakes. I hope to improve my game by learning from others. IRL, there is no one I can talk to about poker without being looked at as a weird person!

I have often read great threads or blogs from twoplustwo that have undoubtedly lifted my game over the years. Now I want to also contribute and fix the inevitable huge leaks in my game. My knowledge is fractured, parts of my game are pretty good and other parts that are fundamentally flawed. I will help where I am confident of my own advice.

My current format of choice is 6max NLHE Zoom on Pokerstars but I have plenty of experience with regular 6max and FR tables. I play anywhere from 2NL to 50NL. Sometimes 2NL as a warm up if I haven't played for weeks/months, or taking shots at 50NL when I have a big enough bankroll. However my usual haunting grounds are 10NL-25NL Zoom tables.

Anyway, it is great to finally introduce myself and participate.

See you in the 2+2 threads and at the tables!
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05-22-2019 , 06:36 PM
Solid TAG Call 3-bet % for micros? Feel like mine at 63% is far too high... but then I think I'm playing tighter, so maybe I have good candidates to call and see a flop more often? Obviously I'm calling more against aggro opponents/fun players and less against nits.

Fwiw,

VPIP 21.9%, 16.1% PFR, 7.2% 3-bet

First post here... thanks in advance for the help
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05-23-2019 , 07:00 PM
Hoping to get some thoughts on my (few) hands at 2nlz because I am considering jumping to 5nlz.

Some background... I first got into poker seriously and played microstakes cash and 2nl and 5nl on stars from 2016- May 2018 and learned the basics. I read the grinders manual and watched lots of training vids. I was never amazing but did okay. I quit in May 2018 and just came back in May 2019. I am in grad school and until I graduate in August I probably won't study much. I just jumped back in to 2nlz with 30BI and have played 19k hands. I haven't really studied much outside of reading a bit of grinders manual, some hand reviews on here and discord and watching some youtube vids/streams.

My stats are below. I was planning on moving up/shotting 5nlz at 20BI or 25k hands. I've hit 21BI in 19k hands and am thinking of moving up. I don't really feel confident in my game a ton. I feel like I'm playing really tight at 21/16 and I'm trying to open more in BU and CO to loosen up. I feel like I have a lot of work to do understanding spots postflop as I try and move up. I feel like I've run super super hot, as I'm at almost 12bb/100. However, since I was breakeven at 8k hands, I'm at 20bb/100 since then and feel as though I am either just running hot or just not punting. However, my luck bell curve (is this worth looking at) shows me as unlucky, so maybe I can just beat this stake for 10bb/100ish? I haven't had many tilt issues and controlled my emotions well when playing.

I also feel very passive overall with a low AF. My WSD also always seem to be high, but I do bluff catch when it feels appropriate. Also until like the last 2-3k hands I was losing from the button which seemed really weird given how tight I was there before.

I know this is a SUPER SMALL SAMPLE but I think I'm gunna jump to 5nlz now and hope I can get some thoughts.










Lmk if any other stats are needed.
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05-24-2019 , 03:53 AM
What is a desired River Call efficiency? I know the stat should compromise between not paying off but also making enough thinly profitable bluffcatches
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05-24-2019 , 07:54 PM
Hello,I recently moved up to nl5, im mixing SH with FR, and here is the SH stats and graph

i appreciate all your help to improve my game





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05-30-2019 , 04:49 PM
approx what percentage of hands does statname track?
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06-13-2019 , 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Grinder222
Hello,I recently moved up to nl5, im mixing SH with FR, and here is the SH stats and graph
Why in the world you would mix SH with FR nl5, there is plenty of action these stakes.
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06-15-2019 , 05:35 PM
Any good videos or tutorials around on how to find the most common leaks on PT4? There's an old thread in the archives, but it's really really outdated.
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06-29-2019 , 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by a_kimsta
I feel like I am doing atrociously in the blinds.
Here are my stats for the last 23k hands.


I've been performing very badly the last 40k hands and really want to improve so any analysis is much appreciated.
As a sidenote, I've been wanting to get leakbuster but am holding out for leakbuster 2 so I can use it w/ Drivehud. Is it worth to just skip the wait and get pokertracker/leakbuster and abandon drivehud?
just cursorily looking at your stats, are you cold calling a lot in the small blind? I would expect 3-bet to be higher in this position. Vs a RFI, I wouldn't be doing anything but 3-betting or folding a linear range. Honestly, that advice alone may save you quite a bit, I am not sure how you are in SB vs BB dynamic, that probably needs some serious attention.

cold calling in SB is probably costing you more than you realize, if you are doing it. IMO it is just punting away 3 big blinds at a time. If you are not, it looks like you might be nitting it up vs steals.

you are also vpiping way too little in the BB. 18% is nitty, you can't be folding that much, you have to play some poker. You are actually losing money by refusing to play your blind.

my advice is to use snowie's BB defend / sb facing RFI charts for a good idea of how to play facing opens in the blinds. They are actually a really good guideline, though you may want to tighten them up a bit until you get comfortable with them, because they will have you taking the initiative more often, and doing a lot more playing back at opponents / following through when ranges are capped like in pots where a player in position defends and you go to a flop. It's much better than slowly dribbling away, though. That no doubt is happening.

Last edited by amazin lazer; 06-29-2019 at 01:11 AM.
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07-02-2019 , 05:14 PM
Hi all.

Would appreciate a check up of my stats over the last 25,000 hands, all 6max, mostly 16NL. Have only really started playing in the last few months again. Previously was beating games at around 6bb/100 at NL10 and between 4-5bb/100 at NL16 but that was a few years ago, seems the games are more aggressive.

I think I am just running into a patch of variance + some slightly bad play without making the needed laydowns in a few spots as I cant see much i can change unless I tighten up from the blinds ever so slightly (was up $230 after first 10k hands and now just $5 up...).

Interestingly I have looked at those first 10k hands vs the 25k hands I have now and I admit there is some bad plays in there from over calls against the top of peoples ranges but not a lot is different. I was maybe squeezing and 3betting ever so slightly more in the first 10k hands.

https://www.photobox.co.uk/my/photo/...d=501966790866

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07-09-2019 , 11:32 AM
Sorry if this is the 1000th time this question has been asked, but is there a list of good-ish stat ranges to be in for stats like WTSD, 3b call, BB defend, etc.?
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07-09-2019 , 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by mediacalc
Sorry if this is the 1000th time this question has been asked, but is there a list of good-ish stat ranges to be in for stats like WTSD, 3b call, BB defend, etc.?
PT4 has a checkup tool that does have good ranges in it. I haven't played with it much, so I'm not sure whether the ranges factor how many players you averaged during the hands you check on, but you could just filter down to 5-6 handed players and I'm pretty sure it'll do the trick.

I believe preflop you can be anything between about 18/14 and 25/19 and likely be winning -- 30/22 starts to stretch it a bit, but used to be viable, and I know back in the day somebody was crushing at like 45/31 (although I think people adapted, so that's almost certainly no good anymore against all the GTO students on here).

WTSD I think you want to be between like 25-30, 3! preflop I think you want to be around 7-10, BB I think you should be defending around 30% against the button/CO and 40-50% against the SB, overall AF postflop should be about 2-2.5 (generally you want higher on flop/turn than river, I think an AF of 1.5 on the river is good). AF should be higher if you're tighter preflop.

W$@SD I think you want around 50-55, and I'm not remembering too many more off the top of my head.

All of these should be somewhat flexible based on your player pool -- if someone plays like 30/25 with a 15 3! in your game then your fold to 3-bet would be lower because you'll 4! or call that person lighter. At the same time, your VPIP should probably go down if you're to that person's right, as well.
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07-09-2019 , 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by BlindingLaser
PT4 has a checkup tool that does have good ranges in it. I haven't played with it much, so I'm not sure whether the ranges factor how many players you averaged during the hands you check on, but you could just filter down to 5-6 handed players and I'm pretty sure it'll do the trick.

I believe preflop you can be anything between about 18/14 and 25/19 and likely be winning -- 30/22 starts to stretch it a bit, but used to be viable, and I know back in the day somebody was crushing at like 45/31 (although I think people adapted, so that's almost certainly no good anymore against all the GTO students on here).

WTSD I think you want to be between like 25-30, 3! preflop I think you want to be around 7-10, BB I think you should be defending around 30% against the button/CO and 40-50% against the SB, overall AF postflop should be about 2-2.5 (generally you want higher on flop/turn than river, I think an AF of 1.5 on the river is good). AF should be higher if you're tighter preflop.

W$@SD I think you want around 50-55, and I'm not remembering too many more off the top of my head.

All of these should be somewhat flexible based on your player pool -- if someone plays like 30/25 with a 15 3! in your game then your fold to 3-bet would be lower because you'll 4! or call that person lighter. At the same time, your VPIP should probably go down if you're to that person's right, as well.
thanks man! those all sound reasonable
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07-16-2019 , 10:36 PM
Hey everyone. So I"m a relatively new player who's been studying since April. I've played mostly 6max tables with a mixture of Zoom. Started at 5NL, slowly lost my first bankroll, bought in again, and am continuously leaking money. I've since moved down to 2NL, and still have trouble beating it.

I feel like I'm learning things very quickly, and try to be conscious of my decisions during games, but it seems I win lots of small pots and then go on to lose big pots, resulting in a net loss. I'm constantly trying to value bet and bluff less too.

Pretty obvious to me that my redline is a problem. I don't yet feel comfortable on the turn and river and often lose money in those positions. I've got a few ideas of where my leaks are but am still not 100% sure how to interpret certain things. Any help with that would greatly be appreciated. I'm at a point where I'm willing to study and devote time to getting better, but am unsure where to start since my efforts have been in vain up until now.

I used Hand2Note for the stats instead of PT4. Hope thats okay, otherwise I'll download PT4 if needed.

Thanks in advance!

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07-20-2019 , 03:17 AM
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Originally Posted by BlindingLaser
I believe preflop you can be anything between about 18/14 and 25/19 and likely be winning -- 30/22 starts to stretch it a bit, but used to be viable, and I know back in the day somebody was crushing at like 45/31 (although I think people adapted, so that's almost certainly no good anymore against all the GTO students on here).
I play 37/30... That's 5-max (I dislike 6-max because of the "nit seat") though. NL5 and NL10. I dunno my longterm winrate simply because I only installed HEM like 4 days ago as I dislike HUDs (for reasons that apply to me but not necessarily to others). After 10k hands it's 23bb/100 but lol sample size. That said, I do win some hundreds every month and it's impossible for the winrate to be less than 10bb/100, over a meaningfully big sample size. So yeah, you don't necessarily need to play really tight to win at the micros but playing 37/30 isn't for everyone of course, especially when you 6-table it can get a bit hectic.

Unfortunately, moving up in stakes is a bit difficult because I don't play super much a month and I'm unemployed, so the few hundreds I win every month goes to living expenses.

I have plans to start playing more though and start to take poker seriously again. I did play professionally during the crazy days of poker, but those "Average VPIP over 30 in NL100 full ring" days are over lol.
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07-20-2019 , 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Che Disastro
Hey everyone. So I"m a relatively new player who's been studying since April. I've played mostly 6max tables with a mixture of Zoom. Started at 5NL, slowly lost my first bankroll, bought in again, and am continuously leaking money. I've since moved down to 2NL, and still have trouble beating it.

I feel like I'm learning things very quickly, and try to be conscious of my decisions during games, but it seems I win lots of small pots and then go on to lose big pots, resulting in a net loss. I'm constantly trying to value bet and bluff less too.

Pretty obvious to me that my redline is a problem. I don't yet feel comfortable on the turn and river and often lose money in those positions. I've got a few ideas of where my leaks are but am still not 100% sure how to interpret certain things. Any help with that would greatly be appreciated. I'm at a point where I'm willing to study and devote time to getting better, but am unsure where to start since my efforts have been in vain up until now.

I used Hand2Note for the stats instead of PT4. Hope thats okay, otherwise I'll download PT4 if needed.

Thanks in advance!
A quick look at some of the common stats and I don't see anything out of line. Everything looks good. Based on the graph, you look about breakeven until your redline negative slope increases. Maybe not aggro enough postflop?

I will say that when I started at 2nl, it took me 6 months to be a winning/breakeven player, mostly because I just had to learn to play decent poker. I would recommend reading the grinders manual.
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