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12-10-2008 , 11:23 PM
BUT THE SEXY LAG STATS!
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12-10-2008 , 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by thac
BUT THE SEXY LAG STATS!
i dont even look at my stats anymore lol.
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12-10-2008 , 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by thac
BUT THE SEXY LAG STATS!
I dont play with a mind set of I am going to play laggy. It just happens that way I dont think I am playing laggy. I dont care what style I play i just want to be solid and win
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12-11-2008 , 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by wingchunflush
I dont play with a mind set of I am going to play laggy. It just happens that way I dont think I am playing laggy. I dont care what style I play i just want to be solid and win
tighten the screws then imo
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12-11-2008 , 12:34 AM
Can someone look at my stats please.

These are from 50nl over 25000 hands:

VPIP:18.6
PFR:14.9
WTSD:20.9
W$SD: 53.1
W$WSF: 42.9
3BET: 4.2
Fold to 3bet: 66.2
Steal: 30.5
Flop Cbet: 71.0
Turn Cbet: 36.1
AF: 3.79

I've been winning at about 6 ptbb/100, but is losing at about 3.5 ptbb/100 in non showdown pots.

I'm particularly concerned about my WTSD, since I think that number is fairly low and that could contribute to why I'm losing so much without SD.
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12-11-2008 , 04:08 AM
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Originally Posted by DoughOrDie
Hello, I run 18.4/13.5/2.4
W$WSF: 42.5
WTSD: 27.17
W$SD: 56.5
AFq:45.16
3-bet: 5.28
Fold 3bet: 66.06
Attmpt to steal: 24.04
Fold BB to steal: 83.17
Fold Sb to steal: 86.19

This is over a 50k hand sample. Now can someone please help me figure out why when I have good enough instincts and hand reading to get to SD 57% of the time with the best hand, I would be on a 28 buyin downswing which is causing me to move down from the 25nl I had been crushing? I have been running disgustingly unbelievably bad but is there also a tremendous hole in my game I'm just not seeing? I'm kinda losin it so any help is greatly appreciated.
-Dough
You should be crushing with those stats imo. Try going for multiple streets of value when you have tpgk, tptk type hands. I think you're pot controlling a bit too much. PM me with some hands if u can, I'm actually curious.....
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12-11-2008 , 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by CoolName
Can someone look at my stats please.

These are from 50nl over 25000 hands:

VPIP:18.6
PFR:14.9
WTSD:20.9
W$SD: 53.1
W$WSF: 42.9
3BET: 4.2
Fold to 3bet: 66.2
Steal: 30.5
Flop Cbet: 71.0
Turn Cbet: 36.1
AF: 3.79

I've been winning at about 6 ptbb/100, but is losing at about 3.5 ptbb/100 in non showdown pots.

I'm particularly concerned about my WTSD, since I think that number is fairly low and that could contribute to why I'm losing so much without SD.
You're folding way too much and not getting to SD enough imo. I have no idea how u're still crushing for 6ptbb/100. That's a really great WR. Seems to be working for you. Y fix something that works?
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12-11-2008 , 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by bung
You're folding way too much and not getting to SD enough imo. I have no idea how u're still crushing for 6ptbb/100. That's a really great WR. Seems to be working for you. Y fix something that works?
I just feel like there is still room for improvement.
I know I'm folding too much, but I dont know what can I do to change that.
I guess I just dont know how often do people bluff at these levels, so a lot of times I feel I give people too much credit when they bet.
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12-11-2008 , 05:29 PM
Hey guys, here are screenshots of my stats and graph. I'm running OK, but I have a few questions. I'd appreciate it if you could help.







I plan on taking a shot at NL50 (I play on Full Tilt) once I hit 20k hands at NL25, I'm already rolled for it but I'd like to make sure that my game doesn't have any glaring leaks. I'm pretty new, so I've read up on the stats but I don't have an amazing understanding of all of them. I know I'm currently beating NL25, but I'm scared that my style will be really exploitable at NL50 by the more experienced players.

First of all, my AF is 7.26 on the flop, 2.65 on the turn, and 1.79 on the river. Am I too aggro on the flop, and giving up too easily on the other streets (my WTSD is only 20.91)? I sometimes feel like I should be c-betting less, and have been doing so lately. Usually, I only call double-barrels/triple barrels if I have history on the villain, and double-barrel myself depending on the villain if a scare card comes on the turn or whatever.

Also, I'm not sure about my 3bet%. I barely see any squeezing at NL25 except when facing AK/QQ+ (usually), but from what I've heard it's much more frequent at NL50... what would be an ideal squeezing range given my stats? AQs+/77+ from CO/BTN ? That would be my first guess intuitively, yet I can't really put it into practice as PFR's are pretty rare at NL25.

I have 86% fold BB to steal and 89% fold SB. Besides when I have monsters, I only really play back at LP raises with PPs/SCs if I'm facing a TAG raising from the LP with a high Attempt to steal blinds % (~31%+). I think it may be a bit nitty, as I'm expecting lots more relentless betting from the CO/BTN at NL50. Maybe once I move up I should open up my range (villain dependent of course) to something like KQ+/88+/random SCs once in a while?

Finally, concerning the graph, is that red line "normal"? I can't tell if it's good or bad, as it seems to hug the horizontal axis of the graph. I see many graphs with that line way under $0, so maybe it's a sign that I'm just running real good? It doesn't really feel like it though, I never seem to have sessions where I suckout on people horribly, or vice-versa, my luck is pretty "average" I'd say. PokerEV doesn't seem to work with PT3 so I don't know how well I'm running EV-wise.

Thanks.
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12-13-2008 , 04:54 AM
Can someone take a quick look at these stats from my small shot at 25NL (4250 hands) and see if there's anything glaring...i was up 160 at one point but now overall im stuck almost 200...



i think my CCPF might be a little high but sometime with stack sizes and odds i dont want to 3bet my PPs unless there is a lot of limp/folding at my table.

my agg freq is very high utg, espically on the flop. if i open up utg and miss should i just not cbet as much? I CBet 65% of the time overall, 64% of the time UTG.
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12-13-2008 , 04:58 AM
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Godsadsdd, lost the grip from my redline. Am I really having a sick run or could I put this one on variance? Seems like the regs just own the **** out of me and when I try to adjust to them, like say 2nd barreling thinner in 3b pots, they always look me up. Do I suck or is this normal variance? I mean thats a many buyins lost in nonsd pots and I've never experienced anything like this. Talk to me guys!
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12-13-2008 , 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by G4L
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Godsadsdd, lost the grip from my redline. Am I really having a sick run or could I put this one on variance? Seems like the regs just own the **** out of me and when I try to adjust to them, like say 2nd barreling thinner in 3b pots, they always look me up. Do I suck or is this normal variance? I mean thats a many buyins lost in nonsd pots and I've never experienced anything like this. Talk to me guys!
i'm starting to become of the opinion that the biggest redline killer is when people call/reevaluate/fold as opposed to evaluate/call(or fold)/predetermined-action-for-card/sitaution. putting in money and then mucking to an almost sure to come bet has a lot more to do with non-showdown winnings than pulling off max bluffage imo.
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12-13-2008 , 07:48 AM
Losing in non showdown is NOT a leak. Your red line looks like variance. More specific, you were probably "running good in non-SD" at first and now you're back to neutral.

Why does everyone seem to be so worried about their red line? Just because you lose money in certain spots doesn't mean it's a leak. It's just a graph of your filtered hands not going to showdown. Just a filter. If you enter a different filter, like saw flop and lost, and then graph it, your graph will be a massive downswing, but is it really a leak to lose money in spots where you lose the pot?

In the end, it's all about the green line.
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12-13-2008 , 08:11 AM
Yeah, but my green line is also going down there.
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12-13-2008 , 12:10 PM
Doesn't mean it's the red line's fault. Green lines are swingy even over 30K stretches.
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12-13-2008 , 02:01 PM
allright. it just seems weird that suddenly I lose like 6bins only at nonsd pots.
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12-14-2008 , 02:03 PM
Hey, I play 5 nl, and just kinda worried my aggression is super low, not sure though. I'm doing well whatever I'm doing i think though, just thought some people could comment.

TY!




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12-15-2008 , 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by G4L
allright. it just seems weird that suddenly I lose like 6bins only at nonsd pots.
okey, it has to be a leak of some sort. i just keep getting massive losses there (~13bins atm only for like 7k hands) and my W$WSF is down 5% from where it used to be. I am bleeding money from some part of my game.. any hints where should i start looking it?
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12-15-2008 , 03:05 PM






Any thoughts?
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12-16-2008 , 11:09 PM
Hi,

please help me out, I feel confused. Something must have changed in my game because over the last 30k hands I am a significant loser whereas from June to August, I was a big winner (5 PTBB/100) over 60k hands(NL50 6-max) - although I ran above expectation.


Winning month graph


[I]Winning month stats/I]

I have to say that I tilted way too often in the last months but I doubt that this is my only leak. My hand reading is much better than back then but the results are horrible. Please look at my graph and you will see that in my winning months my Showdown winnings were ok and my Non-SD winnings pretty good also. Now, the Non-SD is huge and the SD winnings are catastrophical.


Nov-Dec graph


Nov-Dec Position stats

Is this a maniac graph or what is my problem? I think I play pretty aggressive now, but in my stats I don't really see the difference to my winning months..
My suspicion is that I overplay weak hands but maybe thats not the only thing + I can't remember being much more careful with TPTK kind of hands in my winning period.

Would be very thankful for constructive responses!




PS: Maybe I have to add that I played in pretty wild games oftentimes.
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12-16-2008 , 11:30 PM


i too am a bit worried about my redline. im experimenting with some things now to see if i'm cbetting and shutting down on too many flops or not playing aggressively enough with decent equity etc. i've seen positive redlines so i know they exist!

and mine is reallllllly bad.
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12-17-2008 , 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by trial0r


i too am a bit worried about my redline. im experimenting with some things now to see if i'm cbetting and shutting down on too many flops or not playing aggressively enough with decent equity etc. i've seen positive redlines so i know they exist!

and mine is reallllllly bad.
It certainly looks like your redline is keeping your greenline flat.
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12-17-2008 , 12:54 PM
When my redline was plummeting it was because I was trying to raise too many hands and then c-betting into stations. The biggest mistake that almost all players make at uNL is calling with too many hands. So, trying to steal often with random junk, suited connectors, or low pocket pairs, basically any of the hands where you actually need fold equity to have a chance to win end up massively -EV in my experience against people like this.
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12-17-2008 , 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by el_grande
It certainly looks like your redline is keeping your greenline flat.
yea it really does. fix?
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12-17-2008 , 09:20 PM
Hello all, i'm kinda new to this game, played only sng's for a long time and switched to nl50. started pretty good but last 15k hands with -14BI do not add any confidence. Any respond where could be my leaks is very appreciated.










Thank You.
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