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Old 09-25-2008, 05:44 PM   #401
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Re: **Official uNL stats thread, redux**

Judging by your flop AF I'm guessing a good place to start is by c-betting more often.
You're also running bad in this sample. What's your normal Won $ at SD, like 55%+?
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Old 09-25-2008, 06:03 PM   #402
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Judging by your flop AF I'm guessing a good place to start is by c-betting more often.
You're also running bad in this sample. What's your normal Won $ at SD, like 55%+?
52-53%...thanks for the help.
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Old 09-25-2008, 06:28 PM   #403
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I know its a small sample size but over a large one my stats were similar.

I NEED HELP WITH MY W$WSF

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Wutang I would strongly recommend playing some HU for a while if you're properly rolled for 50nl. You will get to see more flops and you can work on your hand reading ability and it helps with value betting etc.

Also playing a 17/13 style is very high variance as it requires good cards to win in short-term. I would try to get your Attempt To Steal % up to 35-40%. This should boost your winrate long-term as you'll be playing as lot of pots in position which is where all the money comes from.

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Old 09-25-2008, 07:28 PM   #404
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Re: **Official uNL stats thread, redux**

hey, just thought I'd get some feedback from anyone that cares

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Old 09-25-2008, 08:16 PM   #405
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Re: **Official uNL stats thread, redux**

walke353,

i've never looked much into stats but i'll give yours a stab. you have good steal numbers from the button but it seems like there's too big of a disconnect between your button stats and your cutoff stats. take advantage of the times you have a nit on your left as he won't be playing many pots IP against your cutoff raises and it makes your winrate rise a lot from that spot. It also seems like you cold call a lot preflop on the button and cutoff and i would suggest 3betting more liberally in position. when you have looser openers on your right it is generally better to 3bet hands like connectors rather than cold calling because you won't get paid off by their wide opening range often and you'll be able to play a pot IP or simply steal a good chunk from someone who is opening too many hands on your right. Your 3bet numbers are very tight for someone with your loose tendencies, so although you've opened up some of your game clearly you should try to balance it by opening up these other parts. hope this helps.
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Old 09-25-2008, 10:36 PM   #406
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Re: **Official uNL stats thread, redux**



leaks?
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Old 09-26-2008, 05:06 AM   #407
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Nice solid stats IMO
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Old 09-26-2008, 06:03 AM   #408
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hey, just thought I'd get some feedback from anyone that cares

Good post to quote if someone asks what their stats should ideally look like.

Those W$WSF and late street AF figures look especially good, looks like you're pretty comfortable in your hand reading. You're probably not folding the winner too often and value bet or bluff late streets with good frequency.

The only criticism I have is that you should try stealing more often. Something like 35% should be ideal but you could get away with even more at your current level. Also move up ASAP.

edit: You might also want to reconsider your blind play, you seem to defend more than is usual for a TAG. Same thing as with stealing: as long as you play well postflop you can get away with defending more but defending 25% from the BB is probably similar to stealing 45%. What I mean by that is that you probably need the same amount of postflop skill to make your worst hands profitable in those spots.

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Old 09-27-2008, 08:52 AM   #409
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Re: **Official uNL stats thread, redux**

Alright here are my stats from the last 5 weeks really. It seemed as though I maybe had it figured out, then I lose it all.....induce life tilt.

Im playing a little tight I guess at 16/13 but Im not sure anymore. Very frustrating as Ive played well over 200k hands at this level and had to withdraw money a few times, hence not being able to move up.

Then I beat these games for a good rate then crazy downswing......help needed or coach suggested....whichever you guys think would be best..........and no I don't want to just quit.

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Old 09-27-2008, 11:39 AM   #410
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your W$SD% is terrible.
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Old 09-27-2008, 01:41 PM   #411
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Re: **Official uNL stats thread, redux**

whats an average w$SD% and what does that mean that its low?
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Old 09-27-2008, 05:30 PM   #412
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His WTSD% is high so his W$SD% is going to suffer a little. If he's winning $ without showdown then his stats are fine. If he's not then he should stop paying off on the river and get his WTSD% to around 22-23%. klink, is your green line above your blue line?
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Old 09-27-2008, 10:53 PM   #413
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His WTSD% is high so his W$SD% is going to suffer a little. If he's winning $ without showdown then his stats are fine. If he's not then he should stop paying off on the river and get his WTSD% to around 22-23%. klink, is your green line above your blue line?
too lazy to post it, but my blue line is above my green line, and my red line is really low.
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Old 09-28-2008, 12:36 AM   #414
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Ya then you're probably paying off on the river or overvaluing some hands on the river. Or you're running bad at showdown/losing with TPTK/TPGK
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Old 09-30-2008, 07:45 AM   #415
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Won $ w/o SD. Lost $ with SD.

Hi, I play NL50.

This month was not good for me. A little tilt, bad play and bad luck is a terrible cocktail. But just now I discovered something odd. My question is: What do the following stats tell about my play?


without SD: 534$ won
with SD: 477$ lost

My stats are:
VPIP: 22.8
PFR: 15.5
WTSD%: 27.1
W$WSF: 43.8
W$SD%: 45.1
RiverCallWin%: 36.7
Aggression: 3.1
$(EV adjusted): -26$
Avg All-in EV%: 49.5
(maybe someone can explain what the last two stats mean)

I played 8500 hands and won only 36$.


What are my leaks? Am I calling down too light? Am I too aggressive? Are my good non-showdown results sustainable if I change my play style?

Maybe some expert can interpret that. Thanks very much in advance!

PS: Would be great if others say how their SD/Non-SD relation is.
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Old 09-30-2008, 08:33 AM   #416
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Your VPIP and PFR (22/15) difference is pretty wide. Maybe you are calling too many raises w/ marginal hands and getting value towned (or valuetowning yourself) w/ TP and marginal kickers. Your WTSD% (27%) is very high. I think w/ VPIP 22% a standard WTSD% is 21-22%. Maybe ~24% would be optimal for your aggressive style. This should increase your W$SD% to ~49%-51% and you will start to win at showdown.

Bottom line is this samlpe size is tiny and you might be running bad. All of what I said might be totally wrong/BS but I do recommend closing the gap between your VPIP/PFR. Play(opening, isolating,3betting, less cold calling) a lot of pots in position. Don't try to outplay/pound your opponents out of position. Do the pounding in position.
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Old 09-30-2008, 02:47 PM   #417
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Re: **Official uNL stats thread, redux**

hey guys, first 50k hands at 50nl.

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Old 09-30-2008, 02:53 PM   #418
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Re: **Official uNL stats thread, redux**

I'm around 25NL, does anyone around here charge to review stats?

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Old 09-30-2008, 03:18 PM   #419
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I'm around 25NL, does anyone around here charge to review stats?

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Old 09-30-2008, 06:08 PM   #420
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I'm around 25NL, does anyone around here charge to review stats?

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Old 09-30-2008, 06:47 PM   #421
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Any input would be greatly appreciated guys. I am looking to open up my game as I think 19/17 is too nitty, but I don't know any spots where I am missing out on this. Is there anything obvious in my stats?

Also would really appreciate if people can show me general leaks, and tell me if my red line is too spewy or not. I think I'm not that great at double barrelling, cbetting etc post flop hence it being a bit too low.


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Old 09-30-2008, 08:14 PM   #422
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Here are my position stats for the last 2k hands, i know it's quite not enough but I've changed my game a lot recently and it wouldn't make sense to put the last 10k hands together.

I think my VPIP in the SB is still to high but i have also high "fold SB to steal", what do you make of that ?

It's NL10 btw :

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Old 10-02-2008, 02:42 AM   #423
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Does anything look off? I don't really know what I could be doing so wrong to be down 17.5 buyins at 50NL.
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Old 10-02-2008, 03:47 AM   #424
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Does anything look off? I don't really know what I could be doing so wrong to be down 17.5 buyins at 50NL.
Just assuming this is mixed in with some variance you are showing down way too many hands. So you are either bluffing too much or calling to much. And you should know which one it is.
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Old 10-02-2008, 04:46 AM   #425
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Does anything look off? I don't really know what I could be doing so wrong to be down 17.5 buyins at 50NL.
You're not folding enough your SB/BB to a steal, especially SB. Playing marginal hands out of position will have a great effect on your winrate.
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