Open Side Menu Go to the Top
Register
uNL Stats Checkup Thread uNL Stats Checkup Thread

08-27-2008 , 11:30 PM
I just completed 20k hands at 25NL.
Can someone do a basic checkup and point out both good things and bad things?
I am still using PT2 so there are no 3 bet and 4 bet stats.
I think 3bet is around 5% overall.

Position Stats


Aggression Stats



Showdown Stats



Steal Stats
uNL Stats Checkup Thread Quote
08-27-2008 , 11:47 PM
to above poster: consider opening up your UTG and MP range esp. when tight players are in the CO and BTN. You look to be on the right track but I think you can show more of a profit in the early positions.
uNL Stats Checkup Thread Quote
08-28-2008 , 04:24 AM
http://img171.imageshack.us/my.php?i...ingraphkc4.jpg

Alright here is my all in ev and showdown/non-showdown.

What does all this mean?
uNL Stats Checkup Thread Quote
08-28-2008 , 08:39 PM
bump

any suggestions?

Thanks
uNL Stats Checkup Thread Quote
08-28-2008 , 08:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cbiz
http://img171.imageshack.us/my.php?i...ingraphkc4.jpg

Alright here is my all in ev and showdown/non-showdown.

What does all this mean?
WTF are you doing at showdown? You are running bad, ~12 BI below expectation. Given that you win 55% of showdowns, but you're horribly down at showdown, you must also be making mistakes in the big pots. Getting your bluffs called? Calling down a bit too light?
uNL Stats Checkup Thread Quote
08-28-2008 , 09:36 PM
loll i dunoo I think I can't fold big pairs. I use to play on UB and I guess havent adjusted to the tighter/always have it PS nits.
uNL Stats Checkup Thread Quote
08-28-2008 , 09:38 PM
also where do u get the 12 BI from?

New to this whole graph/expectation stuff although from my limited use I like Hold Em Manager
uNL Stats Checkup Thread Quote
08-28-2008 , 10:02 PM
I think he's only running 2.7 BI below expectation (difference between All in EV and Winnings). I'd say he's pounding people, bluffing a little too much.
uNL Stats Checkup Thread Quote
08-29-2008 , 02:03 AM
Bumping to get some feedback....

The only reply i got was that I should open up in UTG,UTG+1.
What do successful players play in these positions?
I think I am playing 11/11.

I am already playing 22/17 overall.
If I loosen up more I might start spewing... After all playing OOP is HARD.


Any other feedbad woul be highly aapeciated.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rambling Wreck
I just completed 20k hands at 25NL.
Can someone do a basic checkup and point out both good things and bad things?
I am still using PT2 so there are no 3 bet and 4 bet stats.
I think 3bet is around 5% overall.

Position Stats


Aggression Stats



Showdown Stats



Steal Stats
uNL Stats Checkup Thread Quote
08-29-2008 , 09:41 AM
bump for wutang
uNL Stats Checkup Thread Quote
08-29-2008 , 01:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by thac
bump for wutang
thanks


how do i win at 7bb/100 hands for 60k hands and now start losing with the same style


(note: graph is from last few weeks, other 60k hands of 50nl are at home)



uNL Stats Checkup Thread Quote
08-29-2008 , 01:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cbiz
also where do u get the 12 BI from?

New to this whole graph/expectation stuff although from my limited use I like Hold Em Manager
Quote:
Originally Posted by natefive
I think he's only running 2.7 BI below expectation (difference between All in EV and Winnings). I'd say he's pounding people, bluffing a little too much.
Because I assumed the graph was in $ like they normally are.
uNL Stats Checkup Thread Quote
08-29-2008 , 01:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rambling Wreck
Bumping to get some feedback....

The only reply i got was that I should open up in UTG,UTG+1.
What do successful players play in these positions?
I think I am playing 11/11.

I am already playing 22/17 overall.
If I loosen up more I might start spewing... After all playing OOP is HARD.


Any other feedbad woul be highly aapeciated.
wat? 11/11 is just fine UTG. It corresponds to 22+, AJ+, ATs, KQ. Open up a bit more in MP, like KJs, QJs, JTs, A8s+, AT.

What you really should do is tighten up in the blinds a bit. You shouldn't be playing 27% of your hands in the SB.
uNL Stats Checkup Thread Quote
08-29-2008 , 01:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by WuTangClansman
thanks


how do i win at 7bb/100 hands for 60k hands and now start losing with the same style


(note: graph is from last few weeks, other 60k hands of 50nl are at home)



First, steal some ****ing blinds. Go read Pokey's post about it in the sticky. Then read it again.

Your W$WSF sucks hard. You also have a pretty high flop AF. Are you cbetting bad flops? Shoving too many overpairs on the flop?

The strange thing is that my stats are very similar to yours, though my Att Steal is more like 28%. I also have a high flop AF. I think posting your position stats would help but probably confirm what I'm saying.
uNL Stats Checkup Thread Quote
08-29-2008 , 07:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by hennnerz


nl50 regs over the last week/2 weeks
any thoughts on generally what their stats would reveal bad general tendencies etc?
uNL Stats Checkup Thread Quote
08-29-2008 , 10:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by findingneema
wat? 11/11 is just fine UTG. It corresponds to 22+, AJ+, ATs, KQ. Open up a bit more in MP, like KJs, QJs, JTs, A8s+, AT.

What you really should do is tighten up in the blinds a bit. You shouldn't be playing 27% of your hands in the SB.
Thanks for the heads up.
I was actually thinking of tightening up by removing 22-77 from UTG.
I am pretty sure I fold SB very often. I guess I was really bad my first 10k hands. Thanks for pointing it out. I will check that stat on recent hands.
uNL Stats Checkup Thread Quote
08-29-2008 , 10:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by findingneema
First, steal some ****ing blinds. Go read Pokey's post about it in the sticky. Then read it again.

Your W$WSF sucks hard. You also have a pretty high flop AF. Are you cbetting bad flops? Shoving too many overpairs on the flop?

The strange thing is that my stats are very similar to yours, though my Att Steal is more like 28%. I also have a high flop AF. I think posting your position stats would help but probably confirm what I'm saying.
here they are, help!! (and thanks)

uNL Stats Checkup Thread Quote
08-29-2008 , 10:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by hennnerz
any thoughts on generally what their stats would reveal bad general tendencies etc?
Don't sit with these players on your right?
uNL Stats Checkup Thread Quote
08-30-2008 , 12:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by WuTangClansman
here they are, help!! (and thanks)

This makes no sense. It says you're raising on the button when first to act 8% of the time, but when you're UTG, you're raising 13% of the time. Is that right?

You definitely need to raise more hands on the button. What hands are you raising right now when it's folded to you on the button?
uNL Stats Checkup Thread Quote
08-30-2008 , 03:04 AM
In May I was a 5ptBB/100 winner at NL50. Now I'm FGators and I'm down about $500 total. It all started going bad when I began using HUD... FKCKADKJF *** MY LIFE!!! ASKLFDJALSKDFJASKLFJAJSDSFASIDFASJODIFJ





Anyone notice anything weird there?



Ummm...wtf at UTG stat?

Edit: Also, am I cold-calling from the blinds too often in general? The only hands I cold-call with are all PPs up to JJ (unless against a very aggro player, I'll 3-bet TT and JJ) and 2nd best hands like AJs-AQs, AJo-AQo, KQs, KQo. Does that need to change?

Last edited by Jailblazers; 08-30-2008 at 03:11 AM.
uNL Stats Checkup Thread Quote
08-30-2008 , 04:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jailblazers
Edit: Also, am I cold-calling from the blinds too often in general? The only hands I cold-call with are all PPs up to JJ (unless against a very aggro player, I'll 3-bet TT and JJ) and 2nd best hands like AJs-AQs, AJo-AQo, KQs, KQo. Does that need to change?
If the CO or BTN is raising, I wouldn't be calling with 55 and below. You can't set mine profitably and they are a pain in the ass to play out of position. Against the BTN and CO I wouldn't be calling with with any of your second best hands, I would be 3 betting them.

What is your cbet stat? Are you cbetting too much?

Also you should review pots where people have 3 bet you on the BTN, your stealing quite a bit at least on Fulltilt there a ton of people at 50 NL who seem to have fallen in love with 3 betting light.
uNL Stats Checkup Thread Quote
08-30-2008 , 04:39 AM
I am struggling to beat NL10 so any advice would be highly appreciated. I am really not looking to maximize my EV yet, but merely to make my play profitable.

In my opinion, loosening up preflop would not help me since I guess the biggest problems are in the post flop play.

Do you have any suggestions based on these stats?

Thanks in advance!

Player summary:



Player statistics:


Positions:
uNL Stats Checkup Thread Quote
08-30-2008 , 05:09 AM
Why do I need to 3bet 2nd best hands though? Doesn't that just fold out hands you have dominated? I thought the general idea was to polarize your 3betting range.

I should review all 3bet pots though.
uNL Stats Checkup Thread Quote
08-30-2008 , 10:44 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jailblazers
Why do I need to 3bet 2nd best hands though? Doesn't that just fold out hands you have dominated? I thought the general idea was to polarize your 3betting range.

I should review all 3bet pots though.
Against a late position open you are 3betting TT, JJ, AQ for value. Like if someone opens 40% of their button first in and call 3bets 33% of the time you have 55% with TT against their calling range if they play their top hands. And you'll have more against their actual range because people like to play small pairs and suited connectors there, which do worse against TT than AJ or KQ.

Of course you'll have to play some tough hands postflop and you'll have to put your stack in when you're nowhere nearly sure you have the best hand. Do you feel bad if you stack off with the worst hand? Well, I guess none of us does if we stack off with KK against AA preflop. What fgator didn't realize that poker, when played correctly, is full of these situations and it's better to look stupid in a lot of pots than simply give up every time you're not 80% sure you have the best hand.
uNL Stats Checkup Thread Quote
08-30-2008 , 11:38 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jailblazers
Edit: Also, am I cold-calling from the blinds too often in general? The only hands I cold-call with are all PPs up to JJ (unless against a very aggro player, I'll 3-bet TT and JJ) and 2nd best hands like AJs-AQs, AJo-AQo, KQs, KQo. Does that need to change?
imo, you should be much more inclined to 3bet late position raises with hands like 22-77. You're going to have a hard time realizing your equity with those hands without the initiative, and since most people are raising lighter from LP, there's no guarantee your implied odds are there.
uNL Stats Checkup Thread Quote

      
m