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Old 08-19-2008, 01:42 PM   #276
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My problem is that I have been losing 3.8ptBB/100 without showdown for over 22k hands. Is this normal with these stats (stats below)? If not, where should I improve?


Not bad at all. The thing that sticks out to me is you're calling/4betting WAY too many 3bets. At 50NL, your fold to 3bet should be something like 75-80%. 3bets normally mean what they say, big hands. Or your button raise with T8s got raised by the SB, and you know he has A7o, but you have to let it go. Given that you're stealing a lot, this may be the explanation. If you're playing 3bet pots with marginal hands and missing the flop, as you often will, you'll lose a lot of money without a showdown. Also your turn/river AF is a bit low, you may be missing some value or not punishing draws enough.
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Old 08-19-2008, 02:02 PM   #277
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i have few questions to ask and i figured this would be the right place to do it...

http://img513.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stati1sh6.jpg

btw the noneshowdown winnings are at -1600$

http://img179.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stats2la7.jpg

First of all i was looking at that chart and was wondering... should my none showdown winnings should be in positive value... is this a leak which i should
be looking to improve and this is where i i should be looking at to improve my
winrate.....

Second thing is my stats... i figure them to be pretty solid but still... if anyone notices anything worth mentioning i would really appreciate it.

And the 3rd and final question would be... how do i improve my win rate... i am really puzzled about that... i have improved my winrate about 1BB/100 in last 30K hands and been playing a lot better than last month ( learning a lot) but i still dont understand how should i be playing to run at 10-13 BB/100 ( i talked to few people who i know is good winners at my stakes and NL50 and they are having win rates like that.... ) any help/opinions would be great!!! thx...
Yeah, you want to be making money both with and without a showdown. It looks like you're in far too many 3bet pots. Your fold to 3bet is too low, should be more like 75-80%. And you're 3betting from MP 5% of the time? That corresponds to 99+, AQ+, and it's a little aggro for my taste.
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Old 08-19-2008, 02:48 PM   #278
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Yeah, you want to be making money both with and without a showdown. It looks like you're in far too many 3bet pots. Your fold to 3bet is too low, should be more like 75-80%. And you're 3betting from MP 5% of the time? That corresponds to 99+, AQ+, and it's a little aggro for my taste.
1) well thing about folding to 3bets is that i usually call all min 3bets and since they happen a lot here it makes my call to 3bet % a lot higher...

2) also talking about 3betting.... there is a lot of people minraising.. and i usually go over those min bets if have a hand i want to play so it counts as 3bet when
actually it more like just a regular bet.... so my 3bet % might be higher because of that....

3) MP.... depends mostly on UTG opener... and people do a lot of minraising from that position... i rarely 3bet AQ or 99/TT vs UTG opener... so i guess its again the issue i explained above...

4) and yeah i have no idea how to get my none showdown winnings up? whats they common issues which noneshowdown winnings being so negative?
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Old 08-19-2008, 07:52 PM   #279
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stats stats stats...... any thing more about my stats?
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Old 08-19-2008, 08:23 PM   #280
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1) well thing about folding to 3bets is that i usually call all min 3bets and since they happen a lot here it makes my call to 3bet % a lot higher...

2) also talking about 3betting.... there is a lot of people minraising.. and i usually go over those min bets if have a hand i want to play so it counts as 3bet when
actually it more like just a regular bet.... so my 3bet % might be higher because of that....

3) MP.... depends mostly on UTG opener... and people do a lot of minraising from that position... i rarely 3bet AQ or 99/TT vs UTG opener... so i guess its again the issue i explained above...

4) and yeah i have no idea how to get my none showdown winnings up? whats they common issues which noneshowdown winnings being so negative?
1) Really? I don't see min-3bets that often at Stars 25NL, and definitely not often enough to fold only 55% of the time.

2,3) That's spew. Are you telling me you're 3betting an UTG min-raise with 55 or AJs? Don't do that.

4) You're either spewing chips or playing fit/fold poker, and I think I know which is more likely.
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Old 08-21-2008, 12:43 AM   #281
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Re: **Official uNL stats thread, redux**

hi, i need some help here pls!, which are my leaks? (must be many of them) because this month just lose and lose





thanks for any advice and help !!!
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Old 08-21-2008, 03:21 PM   #282
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Can someone look at my stats?
I'm winning so far, but I feel that my game still has many leaks that need to be fixed.
So if you could tell anything that could be of use it would be much appriciated.

This is on fulltilt and stars.





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Old 08-21-2008, 06:32 PM   #283
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hi, i need some help here pls!, which are my leaks? (must be many of them) because this month just lose and lose





thanks for any advice and help !!!
1) 10k sample is really not enough but anyway....

2) from what i see you play too many hands in UTG and MP and dont you ever open limit lol

3) 3bet seems a little high... tho small sample might be too small...

4) went to showdown seems a little too high and won $ at showdown too low... so you might wanna tighten up... tho again smaple might be too small..

5) you might wanna limp less from SB with crap hands since you get in marginal spots being OOP.....

what does your EV stats say? its good tool to see if you are just running bad or you are playing bad aswell....
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Old 08-21-2008, 07:50 PM   #284
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Can someone look at my stats?
I'm winning so far, but I feel that my game still has many leaks that need to be fixed.
So if you could tell anything that could be of use it would be much appriciated.
It's not bad, but there are some issues. Tighten up from the SB and UTG. Your UTG range is currently something like 22+,AT+,A8s+,KJ+,KTs,QTs+,54s-JTs, which has too many marginal OOP hands. You're stealing a lot, which is good, but if you tighten up a bit up front, your steals will get more credit.

You should include your main stat line for more help.
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Old 08-22-2008, 03:40 PM   #285
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Hey guys,
I've been playing 40 and 50NL for almost 3 weeks now, but I'm struggling big time. I was beating the game for 2 weeks over 9-10k hands running 12BB/100 @ 40NL, and like 5BB/100 @ 50NL for like 2k hands. If anyone could help me, your help would be appreciated big time. Here are my stats.



Ty so much already,

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Old 08-22-2008, 04:20 PM   #286
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X0zix, its hard to tell a ton from that, but it appears you're calling 3bets too light.

Make sure the majority of the time you call a 3-bet its in position. Calling 3bets out of position is going to be very difficult.
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Old 08-23-2008, 05:45 AM   #287
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It's not bad, but there are some issues. Tighten up from the SB and UTG. Your UTG range is currently something like 22+,AT+,A8s+,KJ+,KTs,QTs+,54s-JTs, which has too many marginal OOP hands. You're stealing a lot, which is good, but if you tighten up a bit up front, your steals will get more credit.

You should include your main stat line for more help.
Here they are, hope you can tell me a bit more now.

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Old 08-23-2008, 05:51 AM   #288
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Here they are, hope you can tell me a bit more now.

3bet 8.71? that's too high for sure get it down to something like 4.5-5, and you'll be fine.
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Old 08-25-2008, 07:17 PM   #289
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Here they are, hope you can tell me a bit more now.

3bet less, especially at the super micros. Again, tighten up in the SB (fold to steal should be in the 80s).
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Old 08-25-2008, 07:22 PM   #290
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Hey guys,
I've been playing 40 and 50NL for almost 3 weeks now, but I'm struggling big time. I was beating the game for 2 weeks over 9-10k hands running 12BB/100 @ 40NL, and like 5BB/100 @ 50NL for like 2k hands. If anyone could help me, your help would be appreciated big time. Here are my stats.



Ty so much already,

X0zix.
Tighten up considerably in the SB, 29% of your hands are not playable there. Do the same in BB too. 3bet less from MP and the CO, you've got to respect UTG's raise more. Your problems UTG may be sample-size-related, but you may be overplaying your hands OOP, so review some of those to check on that.
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Old 08-26-2008, 01:04 AM   #291
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Well I've been a nl100 player for awhile but dropped down to nl50 to try and win some $$ back. Been running awful and although I know part of the reason my winrate sucks is from plain running bad I'd like to get out some leaks while I'm still down here so I can go back to 100 and kill it. So any advice? It looks like im losing a busload from the blinds, so perhaps I should tighten up there? Also I think I could be 3betting a bit more. Finally my wwsf% sucks, so that is also something Im aware of just unsure how to correct other then playing better/autoplaying less.

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Old 08-26-2008, 01:47 AM   #292
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Well I've been a nl100 player for awhile but dropped down to nl50 to try and win some $$ back. Been running awful and although I know part of the reason my winrate sucks is from plain running bad I'd like to get out some leaks while I'm still down here so I can go back to 100 and kill it. So any advice? It looks like im losing a busload from the blinds, so perhaps I should tighten up there? Also I think I could be 3betting a bit more. Finally my wwsf% sucks, so that is also something Im aware of just unsure how to correct other then playing better/autoplaying less.

Thanks again for any input.
You know what you're doing wrong, so fix it. First, you're calling too much out of the SB. I'm nittier than you overall, but I run 20/13 in the SB. You should definitely be 3betting more, especially out of the blinds. Resteal and squeeze against aggressive LP raisers, don't call. Your W$WSF does pretty much suck. Making the corrections above, which will have you playing fewer hands passively OOP, should help it. You may also be opening a bit light on the button and having trouble playing some of these marginal hands, but you can't tell from the stats.
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Old 08-26-2008, 10:46 AM   #293
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You know what you're doing wrong, so fix it. First, you're calling too much out of the SB. I'm nittier than you overall, but I run 20/13 in the SB. You should definitely be 3betting more, especially out of the blinds. Resteal and squeeze against aggressive LP raisers, don't call. Your W$WSF does pretty much suck. Making the corrections above, which will have you playing fewer hands passively OOP, should help it. You may also be opening a bit light on the button and having trouble playing some of these marginal hands, but you can't tell from the stats.
true true. I was thinking that my steal % might be a bit too high in that I do put myself in some weird spots that I'm probably not 100% comfortable with yet. I think I need to be a little more conscious of who I'm stealing from and why instead of just raising 75% of unopened/limped pots.
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Old 08-26-2008, 02:08 PM   #294
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I know pretty nitty but it is 25nl on party so pretty loose games. Any help would be appreciated I know I must have some big leaks in my game especially in showdown pots.



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Old 08-26-2008, 03:41 PM   #295
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I know pretty nitty but it is 25nl on party so pretty loose games. Any help would be appreciated I know I must have some big leaks in my game especially in showdown pots.
Honestly, it looks pretty good. You're running 5 BI below expectation, which would net you an extra 1 ptbb/100. That's definitely affecting your W$SD. You could probably open up a bit more on the button, but that's really just nitpicking. It might be sample size, but your poor performance UTG (winrate and W$SD) might be related to overplaying big PP, especially OOP. In general, you may be seeing too many showdowns OOP.
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Old 08-26-2008, 04:46 PM   #296
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Any glaring leaks?





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Old 08-26-2008, 08:22 PM   #297
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Any glaring leaks?
Um, quit playing 25NL? Don't run bad? Seriously, very nice. You might be playing a bit passive in the BB, but otherwise, it's pretty solid. I might 3bet a bit more in position, but your 3bet %s are much closer to optimal than most uNL players.
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Old 08-27-2008, 02:28 AM   #298
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hey just doing the 10k check-up, down 6 buy-ins so doing something wrong...

http://img151.imageshack.us/my.php?i...checkupjq7.jpg

what are my leaks?

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Old 08-27-2008, 03:46 AM   #299
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hey just doing the 10k check-up, down 6 buy-ins so doing something wrong...

http://img151.imageshack.us/my.php?i...checkupjq7.jpg

what are my leaks?

Thank you
Are you running bad? Nothing is immediately obvious. You're seeing a few too many showdowns, and you're tighter than hell in the BB. Post an EV graph and a showdown vs non-showdown.
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Old 08-27-2008, 03:49 AM   #300
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How do I do that in Pokertracker 3? Im new to it...
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