Only thing I can say is your CC waaaaaaaaay too much. 20% of the time to CC is alot O_O I believe it should be around 3-6%. Also as stated RobbStarr your defending your blinds to much. You've lost more money from the SB than the BB. Your BB should be roughly around your EP and the SB you should either be 3beting or folding. Don't complete the SB with Speculative hands or below.


Also just a quick question to everyone. What is a good 3bet call% because I'm calling 3bets 30% of the time and I was wondering if that's a bit too high or too low?

around 20% is standard I guess. but if you are going to make mistakes, you are better off folding more and calling even less than 20%. with 30% you are probably calling 3bets OOP which is almost always a big leak.

Hello.

Here are my stats and graph from 10NL and 25NL.





Given my stats are obviously not nearly optimal, how come I sustain relatively high winrate?

And what would be my biggest leaks?

Thanks in advance.

because you are running hot and the play at 10 or 25nl isn't that great

I don't really see any major leaks other than the rift between PFR/VPIP. Your cbet and barrel stats look good. Move up and see where it goes, if you get crushed then come back and post your stats again.

I see one. Vs 3bet fold. Less than 50%. I suspect he's calling 3bets too much(that or he's 4betting crazy amount but then again his 4bet range is just 2.6% or QQ+, AKo, AKs...).

Albeit his pfr is relatively small so he can defend more but still. And at BB fold to 3bet 10%?

My nl20 stats and graph:



Is seems that I changed my game a lot, my nl10 stats:
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/2047/28718446.jpg

Here my nl50 stats, i really can't understand what i'm doing wrong






This is my nl20.. and i also think i improved my game at nl50 :S



Thanks a lot

could it be that i'm mostly "bumhunting"?

Wanted to get some more feedback on my NL10 stats as everytime I move up to NL25, or try to... I just get owned, or what feels like im being owned. Going to try to put in like 5000-10,000 more hands this year at NL10 and improve on some things, but I dont really know what I could improve on. I think I need to cbet more as this is quite low.

Reduce gap between vpip and pfr. Raise a bit more. Overall you could loosen up a bit. Pretty sure you are better player than most NL10 players anyway so you shouldn't mind being in more hands Especially against fishes of the table as you can outplay them on flop especially IP. There are 3 advantages. Card, skill and position. You can sacrifice a bit on one and still be in great shape so you can sacrifice bit of your card advantage(though if you go to vpip around 22 and pfr around 18-19 you still have card advantage over general fish ) and still do just fine. Especially as the card advantage is least important.

You have pretty high went to showdown and surprisingly high won at showdown but I suppose that's due to your tight range to begin with.

You definetely need to cbet more. Now it's 46%. Try to get it around 60-70% atleast.

You steal bit too little. Try to loosen up from steal positions. Especially CO and button(SB isn't as hot steal position as if you get called you are OOP. Though you should still steal quite liberally from there).

You might eventually want to fight back bit more against steals. Not much but a little. Now you can be stolen pretty comfortably with pretty much any-two

Anyway that's my observation.

What about my positional stats?

I think UTG is pretty tight and I know I need to keep it this way.

As for MP?

I will definately try to open up more from the CO and steal more from the SB.

I will also try to cbet much more.

Hey guys, I'm on a downswing right now any tips would be appreciated.

yep, you said it yourself. cbet more

you're still pretty nitty and fit or fold postflop

you go to showdown too much, add fcbet stat, UO PFR stat if there is one

I can't read PT3 stats as well as HEM stats, sorry

someone comment on my stats please

I'm not posting stats as I currently have a rather small sample size and a lot of it is probably variance. I have a question about a specific one though. Putting aside the tendency of fish at micros to donk in a lot of stupid spots and the adaptations necessary, what is actually a solid justified donkbet%? Say corresponding to dry flops with a weak pair, drawy flops with a hand that might need protection/value/good draw/draw with FE and you don't think villain will just outplay you like hell...

I feel like I probably underuse this bet and sort of auto-check to the raiser. FYI over 43k hands of NL10-NL50 it is about 10%. Thanks for the input

Thankyou, I am definately looking to improve this aspect of my game. The Flop Cbet is already within my stats and its generally around the 45% mark.

What stat did you mean by UO PFR stat??

and no, PT3 stats arent as easy as HEM stats... its one of the things that always makes me want to shell out for HEM, but then again why shell out for HEM if I have PT3... thats just -EV for the bankroll..

Thankyou for your analysis

Your stats look pretty good to me, perhaps try to loosen up a little bit more to about 20-22% Vpip and pfr 19% as this is the advice that ive been given...

You cbet flops a good amount, however you only cbet turns about 50% of the time, im not sure if this should be higher perhaps something similar to your flop cbet stat of around 65%.

@ 25hunterinraid

Your stats seem overall very reasonable. The only one that really looks sad is your W$SD. Maybe take a look at your hands by groupings and see which hand types seem to be leaking, then go over those issues. Probable culprits are suited connectors oop, maybe not stealing enough when they don't pan out, as well as small and medium pairs. Possibly too many showdowns with these / not turning them into a bluff. I might suggest c-betting less with made hands that don't require protection, either to see a cheap showdown or to induce bluffs from aggro villains. Once again I'm sort of guessing here, but I'd guess all of these are decent general ideas.

Also I noticed your non-showdowns, while reasonable, are still pretty steep in the negative. Possibly running bad put aside, maybe you can open up your game postflop somewhat, particularly in position, and see if that works for you. I've found at the very least, if your image gets tainted even decent regs will tend to get value towned a lot in the following hands (same with them imagining you're tilting after some unfortunate cooler).

Let us know your views on all this and maybe post your results by hand groupings.

PS: I know this is supposed to be a stat thread, but this might still be relevant. All the pretty numbers put aside, how do you actually feel at your tables? Are decisions easy, are your opponents transparent? Do you mix up your bet sizing in relation to villain's targeted range? And most importantly: which situations make you uncomfortable, how might you remedy those?

Is a 25000 hand 12 BI downswing normal at 10NL? If anyone could provide feedback on my stats that would be great.

Edit : going to repost stats and remove old ones as I did an 8 hour session today.

Just off the bat, I'd say in terms of pure variance it's anything but sick. Sort of sucks to go through but if you play enough hands it's not only possible, but very likely at any limit. The only cure really is volume, and having a higher winrate (the higher the winrate, the less likely it is to deviate into break-even or losing scenarios).

Haven't looked at your stats just yet as I'm heading out of a long session myself and it's the wee hours of the morning here, but I'll try to give a fishy opinion if I have one later.

Ok now that I've looked at your stats I have a few ideas. Won't answer the downswing question, but it's probably food for thought to improve your long term bottom line.

First, unless you're 12-tabling or something, I'd definitely advise opening up your game. Sure you can beat NL10 running 15/12, people just don't adjust enough or try to exploit for this not to be a winning strategy. But if you're confident with your play and your general reads at the limit, playing more hands will just be better for you. As someone posted earlier, sacrificing some of your hand advantage will still allow your positional awareness and skill advantages to do the work for you. Maybe you could try slowly opening up towards 20ish VPIP and a proportionally reasonable PFR. Obviously, start to do your opening up in late position with more stealing, as your steal is currently quite low, some more cold calling with potential hands to invite fishy blinds into a multiway pot (don't overdo the cold calling by any means, but consider it more depending on the table) and also open up your 3-betting aggression in position.

Another thing I notice is that your WTSD is fairly low, with a rather high W$SD. This isn't necessarily as great as it seems and is often a cause of that non-showdown red line we all hate. I'm not saying you should panic because your red line is negative, in the micros it's pretty hard not to have that. But you should open up your play here too somewhat. More turn barreling and some river bluffs/thinner value bets will mean less showdowns. And those thinner value bets with some thinner calls will mean sometimes you'll bet the worse hand, sometimes you'll call with the worse hand, but with reasonable odds and reads.

The last area in which opening your game could do some good is really the least important. You could be *a bit* less super tight from the blinds specially vs late position raises. Resteal some more vs loose players, call a bit more. I really do mean just a bit and really it's not at all something you should think about too much. Just focus on opening up your play progressively and abusing position more than you are now.

Hope that helps and makes sense!

I continue to lose and lose... i run up my bankrol from 30$ to 200$ 2-3 times on full tilt and pokerstars then i depozited on MYBET! cuz of 40% rakeback and just cant win ****...
please help




started at nl4 went up 13$ then -50$, moved down to nl2 now im -12$ almost there...
i looked at hem and every single hand i lose im favored before the flop....
im feeling depressed and low on confidence... how cant i beat nl2 ffs.. money goes to fishes with stats like 75/2, 54/30/, 80/60....


i know im tight :P just cant get hands to build up my stats i know what to raise utg,mp,co and button

some hands
http://www.pokerhand.org/?5750550

http://www.pokerhand.org/?5750554

http://www.pokerhand.org/?5750559

http://www.pokerhand.org/?5750561

http://www.pokerhand.org/?5750564

Can you post your other stats like VPIP/PFR and aggression, cbet etc. See previous posts in this thread for an idea of the stats people post and then try to post them, itll give us a good idea of how your game plays out. Make sure you also post your stats by each position as this is important in determining if your positionally aware or not.

As I said in the other thread, your graph's EV line looks like your not getting your money in good. You should post some hands where you think you got it in good and then go from there.

Your cbet% is very very low, specially considering how tight you're playing preflop. Also your W$SD% is quite high, but this might be justified by playing very solid hands.

The general tendency that appears looking at your stats is that you seem to play pretty much fit or fold in most situations. I'm pretty sure even as low as NL4 you're leaving a lot of money on the table by doing so. Money left on the table = hit to your winrate = that winrate can easily become break-even or negative.

While you can probably beat your current limit with these stats (but certainly not crush), I think you'll have a very hard time any higher than NL10.

One important note: you've probably noticed how often you play calling stations, possibly even complained about it (we all do at some point when we run bad vs them). Take note of how light they call and ADJUST. Pot flop, turn and river is not a bad exploitable line against a clueless fish. Often anything else can be losing value. Bear in mind, the operative here is "against a clueless fish".

Let us know how you feel about all that.