I am a 5ptBB winner at 50 NL but i looked at my won without showdown winnings and saw i was down a lot is this normal? If not how do we fix it?

Hello,

I have a big downswing at the moment and I am trying to find my big mistakes.

So far I played not more than 23k hands on two different poker rooms.
On one I had a really huge upswing and on the other one a big downswing in less than 3 days.

Here are my stats so far. I think my no showdown winnings is way too bad..




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Okay, so here are my stats for 47K hands at 10NL and 25NL (smaller sample).

As you'll see, I'm basically crushing 10NL, and getting crushed at 25NL. I've also posted my position stats which shows that I am positionally aware. However i feel that I'm not making much at all playing UTG and in MP. I play 18/17 UTG so i'm wondering if this is too loose?

Anyway, PLEASE HELP!! I'd like as much input as possible from everyone. I'm hoping you guys can fix some/lots of leaks that i have in my game. Thanks in advance, pepwa.

Okay, ill try and help you out. I think your doing pretty well @ 10NL and 25NL, however there are some big leaks you need to work on. When I'm looking at your play in the SB and BB. I see you lost alot there. I suggest when you are in the small blind to steal alot of hands, since people will fold alot(that is only if it's folded to you). When they pick up on you, just stop stealing them. Also if SB limps always raise it up no matter what at microstakes imo( when it's folded to you). They will just fold so often and you can take the pot uncontested. Hope that will help increase your winrate alot .

Thankyou X0xiz, appreciate your help.

Other input would REALLLLY be appreciated aswell, please.

So this is my ugly ugly graph. 55000 in I hit a downswing/tilt off spew fest then take shots at 50NL heads up more spew then back at 25NL more spew then right where my upswing starts I tightened up/watch vids etc.. I'm missing a few thousand a hands so I'm probley +100-200 or so I'm not sure. Any comments?

Man dammit your spewy....

Here's the rest of it







Any comments appreciated I know I have a lot of leaks please help!

Hey,

i know 6k hands is a bit of a worthless sample, however i find my stats to differ a lot of what has been posted here. I only 2table, so my reasoning is it may have to do with the fact that i can look up more marginal situations than those zillion-tablers. I would appreciate it a lot though, if someone can say wether the deviations from most of 2p2 are a) not necessarily bad b) most probably bad ... thanks in advance,

I don't know if there's a perfect balance. Funny though, my graph is nearly the exact opposite of yours. My non-showdown winnings are break even and showdown winnings are climbing up.

Stats are really similar...

vpip/pfr/af total: 20/17/3
w$wsf: 44
wtsd/w$sd: 24/60
3bet: 5.6
ats: 30

I'm working off a new db so my sample isn't huge. Hopefully by the end of the month I'll have 30k+ hands together but tbh I don't see much changing stats wise. Probably a little looser, and most likely a bit less % on the w$sd. Some minor bleeding in non-showdown pots is definitely going to happen too, but it shouldn't be too bad.

I think it mostly comes down to table selection and how you play draws/marginal hands. I tend to take a bit more passive approach. I might take down a reasonable amount of hands on the flop (which keeps my non-SD winnings at about neutral or slightly bleeding) but I don't really profit from it because if I have a hand I want to get to showdown with but isn't huge I'll either try to get to showdown cheaply or fold instead of trying to make them fold.

I know that this is only 6k hands but I have a question. When I look at other peoples stats I see that most of them are losing money from the blinds and winning the most on the BTN. I, on the other hand am winning the most money in the BB. Is this normal. Or is this just because I only have such a small sample size and will this change as I play more hands?

alright so I have about 10k hands on my database but I am fairly new to pokertracker, where do I find the place with all the info on one page like people are posting it here and how do i post it?

Thank you very much

alright so after 10k hands I'm down about 7 buy-ins at 10 NL so obviously I'm doing lots of things wrong. Could someone look over my stats please?

Thank you

http://www.imagecross.com/01/image-h...283numbers.jpg

theres the link

Any one :P?

I think this is really just the missing sample size atm, you can't read too much into stats with a sample size, dunno let's say less than 30k hands or smth.

Positional stats would help more I'd say... But from this:

You were playing a winning 22/18 style on NL25. Then moved up to NL50 and played some weird 35/28??? If you're not comfortable playing that LAGgy, I suggest you either try that out at NL25 first, or just play your normal game at NL50 as well (that's what I'd recommend). You were winning at NL25, you can easily be a winner at NL50 as well.

Also, it seems like you are 3betting quite a lot, and also calling lots of 3 bets at NL50. In my experience, guys who do this often get raped (by me for example, lol)... Reason is this: You probably get into too many marginal 3 bet spots, OOP or not, with dominated hands, where you should just be folding preflop. The play on NL50 is not THAT aggressive, that you have to defend a lot...

Fwiw my own stats on NL50 concerning 3betting are something along the lines of: 3bet: 5%; fold to 3bet: 75%.

You don't need to be that overly aggressive at NL50, just play your normal TAG winning game you used to play and you'll be fine...

Cheers

Here are my current stats. Im tempted to try nl10 but want to make sure i don't have any signifcant leaks etc. Is anything evident based on this?

You're a nit, but that's usually a good thing for those micromicrostakes. You could open up in late position a bit more, but other than that: If you're comfortably rolled, definitely give NL10 6max a shot... Should be no problem for ya I'd say.

fwiw, positional stats help more than this stuff, but w/e... no need to go through that, just play nl10. play is similarly awful there...

hey lemming could u look at my stats and give me some advice? Mayb tell me how to not suck so much from the sb?

thanks in advance

myeah sure why not... just answered a couple with images while fixing my stupid PT3 database... didn't see your link


If you want to lose less from the SB: Play less hands. Simple as that. I can only guess what you're doing wrong, since those stats over that insignificant sample doesn't tell us too much about your play:

• Coldcall less raises w/ likely dominated hands out of the SB (e.g. QJ, K10, A9 and the like).
• Complete less garbage in limped pots (e.g. just fold your Q6off and hands which only make 2 pair to be good). Complete stuff like suited connectors, maybe connectors if some limped guys are very bad and will pay you off with your straights, suited one gappers etc.etc.

not too sure what else I can tell you from this, hope this helps a bit... Cheers

Yea my call 3bet % is a big leak I think I plugged it this month. Those 50NL stats are including my heads up play where I lost a bunch playing 50/45 or something here's what my stats are 6max. And thanks for the comments.



Position Stats

thanks, i reluctantly agree with what you say

Sorry for bringing up this old post but there are a few points noone made so far. First you are playing way too loose UTG and MP. Only open scs UTG if the table is really nitty or there's a very clear reason, like you want to play a pot against a huge fish. You're still winning money from early positions so maybe you're doing something right there but I'd still just nit up.

Second, you are stealing 35% but only raise 25% from the button. This tells me you are not isolating limpers often enough. Depending on the limper your isolation range from the button can be the same as your stealing range, sometimes (rarely) even wider. I think this might be one of your biggest leaks.

Finally the combination of high aggression factor and low aggression frequency means you are playing weak tight at 25 NL. This is the tricky part, where stats no longer help. You'll have to find spots where you can call down/stack off/make moves for yourself.

Thanks SU, appreciate the insight. A question however. I understand AF, how to utilise it, what it means etc, however I'm not sure how I should use Aggresion freq, or what it is for that matter? How are the two related?

I agree with what you say about UTG, I really need decrease my range from there.

Thanks, Pepwa

Aggression frequency is just the frequency a player bets or raises when he has the opportunity to.
I generally just go by AFq<50% passive, AFq>50% aggressive. I prefer it to AF because it converges faster. It also doesn't depend on the number of calls so you get a better idea of what a bet from villain actually means. You can also use it in combination with AF to guess how often a player calls and folds.

Someone who's playing 21/18/3 could be anything from weak/tight to standard tag or loose aggressive post flop and their aggression frequency is a big hint there.