Ahahaha, MidnightTokr. Sure!
Whenever MidnightTokr is back, I'm back, I suppose. (Although it's quite the opposite, but it seems like a timing thingo.)

seriously how hard is it to implement a proper table starting system?
king of the hill is useless when seat blocking/sitting out is possible on that one table ffs

Report the players camping.... stars are starting to send out lots of warnings at the moment and i assume there will be a lot of punishments too. koth for starting tables is way better than the old system.

No don't think so.

yday , i decided to start a couple 100nl deep tables , thing i haven't done in like one year or so, and started an hu game, and there's one guy that joined both tables and everytime it was him posting the blind he would sit out and sit in after the next guy posted, what a life!

its so ****ing annoying that i insta closed both tables and went back to zoom, don't remember his SN , but he had a cartoon robot avatar i think , if someone knows his SN , lmk and i'll report him

Thoughts on whether we should have a thread for outing suspected bots or not?

There are some very suspicious accounts around still/appeared recently... one of which I would put money on being the same guy/guys behind kalben/rom etc etc

I wrote 2 weeks ago that im convinced that at least 50% of the current 100 6max pool are bots/hybrids which got instatrolled by timdrone and was ignored afterwards. Definitely good to see that some other people w better rep than me are aware and suspicious of the situation as well.
U can pretty much copy russian ptr topwinner hundo 6max list tis year and send it to stars and i bet half of teh top 40 arent clean.

Poker is changing quickly but when i quit stars in september 90% of those guys werent even around and then they all just move up in a couple of months and completely destroy teh new higher limit from teh getgo?? I call bs and trueteller just cant coach them all

Bots are a serious issue think there should be ongoing discussions about it but not sure if throwing names out there on a public forum is the best course of action

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TimDrone wasn't trolling, you're just an absolutely awful poker player

tim has a point tho, suddenly a bunch of guys starting tables who played 50 or even 25 in december, there's too many of them for it to be a coincidence

I could never ever go back to playing normal tables for that reason. All that crap would tilt the **** out of me.

I couldn't find any real topic about this so I'm sorry I have to write here

I was wondering how are PLO tables on PokerStars?

I've just started playing on PLO10, PLO25 on MGN(MicroGamingNetwork) and it seems all the tables are so tight, total reg fest with maybe 1 bad player(not really a fish).

And it just feels that its the "game of coinflips". Who ever wins a coinflip will make profit. And then you have to include the rake....bah...

PLO seems very soft whenever i watch my roommate playing.

What are the rules regarding camping? Is it even written anywhere on Stars site?

And what email address to report to?

if 1 person is sat at a table, 1 other person can join and sit out (so not to play hu) if a third person joins then everyone has to sit in or those wanting to sit out must leave.

so lame

Very funny eh

I'm not begging for soft tables I just dont want to coinflip and be a raking machine

well.. he is beating the games for 6-8evbb/100, and thats at +400PLO.

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Before seeing this post I was about to say that I don't think outing them here was a good idea.
This should be done in private and because it takes the ppl who do it a lot of time it should not be for free.
I wouldn't mind contributing with a small monthly fee for such a team of bot catchers, other regs might want to contribute too and perhaps PS might work closely with them as well.
Hopefully a player meeting on this specific topic can be done fast, if possible with Ponty being in it. This is the biggest challenge online poker has faced so far.

Is there really that many ? I actually looked at the top40 winners on russian ptr for 100NL and timstone claims half of the guys are suspicious and suddenly popped up playing recently, whereas 75%+ of the accounts have 1M+ hands logged in and just have a straight-line graph and have clearly been playing the same stake for a long time. I haven't played nl100 on stars forever so I don't know how suspicious and how many new accounts there are but seems like it's a tad bit of an exaggeration to say that 50% of the nl100 player pools is russian bots.

It's pretty much guaranteed there is quite a few bots in the games but making these exaggerations isn't helping the case.

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yeah it could also just be that a bunch of actual players got script and started bumhunting higher

Tim was exaggerating a little bit but he has a point and this is a very serious issue.

We need to be very very naive to think that someone who put so much effort to create a bot that was crushing midstakes will just simply give up when banned and not try to get back in different ways.