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01-16-2019 , 06:52 AM

kontost

old hand

Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 1,657

PokerStars Zoom, Hold'em No Limit - $0.02/$0.05 - 6 players
Replay this hand on Upswing Poker

UTG: $5.00 (100 bb)
MP: $4.93 (99 bb)
CO: $7.51 (150 bb)
BU (Hero): $5.09 (102 bb)
SB: $6.02 (120 bb)
BB: $5.85 (117 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.07) Hero is BTN with A♥ T♥
3 players fold, Hero raises to $0.12, SB calls $0.10, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.29) 2♥ 9♣ 8♣ (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($0.29) 7♥ (2 players)
SB bets $0.14, Hero calls $0.14

River: ($0.57) 8♥ (2 players)
SB bets $0.60, Hero calls $0.60

just this, should i raise turn?

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01-16-2019 , 07:14 AM

YouBetIcall

adept

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01-16-2019 , 07:15 AM

ionutd

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bet flop, sb flats are usually some lower pairs 77-55 and KJs/QJs type of hands
ap don't raise turn and get 3b for no reason

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01-16-2019 , 07:40 AM

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journeyman

Join Date: Nov 2017 Posts: 237

No. You can play this like you’re playing ATo, the FD is just an added bonus for the river.

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01-16-2019 , 07:53 AM

kontost

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Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 1,657

should i have a raise range in turn?

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01-16-2019 , 07:57 AM

ULTRACURRY

centurion

Join Date: Aug 2018 Posts: 179

No.. you can't..

If he shows something like 98, JTs, 78.. etc.. make a note and only then you can raise in this spot with fulls.. straights and flushs.. even smaller ones..

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01-16-2019 , 08:20 AM

YouBetIcall

adept

Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 1,048

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Originally Posted by kontost

should i have a raise range in turn?

depends how you play flop, but I don't agree with people that say that this flop is not that good for SB and that we should cbet

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01-16-2019 , 08:38 AM

mediacalc

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Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 283

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Originally Posted by YouBetIcall

depends how you play flop, but I don't agree with people that say that this flop is not that good for SB and that we should cbet

Agree, people are not 3betting 99 and 88 from SB enough and calling those hands instead at NL5. So a check makes more sense.

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01-16-2019 , 01:31 PM

Ojune

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Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 5,171

raising turn is fine with this spr + betsize + low implied odds with our future str8

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01-16-2019 , 02:39 PM

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kontost

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Originally Posted by Ojune

raising turn is fine with this spr + betsize + low implied odds with our future str8

Could you explain this further? Ty in advance

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01-16-2019 , 08:44 PM

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Shamway99

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Originally Posted by kontost

should i have a raise range in turn?

Why not. E.g. 87s 65s for value.

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01-16-2019 , 10:27 PM

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DooDooPoker

Verified Coach NLHE

Join Date: Mar 2018 Posts: 18,585

Raising turn might be better than calling. We have so much equity + fold equity + position. Might as well build the pot. We should also have JT at some non zero frequency.

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01-17-2019 , 12:30 AM

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Ojune

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Originally Posted by kontost

Could you explain this further? Ty in advance

due to spr villain has pretty bad odds to shove over your raise so he's unlikely (he would have to shove an extremely polarized range not to isolate himself against better hands) to do that and if he reraises smaller then we can comfortably call

his betsize on this texture seems to indicate he is not polarized so unlikely to reraise

Most of our str8 draw value comes before we hit, once we hit it's unlikely villain will defend wide as it's very easy to have a str8

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01-17-2019 , 08:32 AM

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kontost

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Originally Posted by Ojune

I appreciate

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01-17-2019 , 12:05 PM

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ChipsNcrisps

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Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 4,946

The only concern about raising turn is that he may find a fold with hearts. That being said, he shouldnt have alot of heart draws, and the vast majority of them will call a turn raise anyway...

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