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01-19-2018 , 09:50 AM

puppyies

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Join Date: Jul 2017 Posts: 53

No reads on villains

WPN, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $2.06 (103 bb)
BB: $1.56 (78 bb)
MP: $2.62 (131 bb)
Hero (CO): $2.59 (129.5 bb)
BTN: $2 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 7

MP raises to $0.08, Hero calls $0.08, BTN calls $0.08, SB folds, BB calls $0.06

Flop: ($0.33) 5

(4 players)
BB checks, MP bets $0.24, Hero calls $0.24, BTN raises to $1.92 and is all-in, MP folds, Hero ???

Thoughts? Not sure if V is ever bluffing

Is this correct btw? been having math issues
Pot odds: (1.92-.24)/(.33+.24+.24+1.92) = 61% equity needed

ranges I put them on (kinda biased):

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01-19-2018 , 11:13 AM

CC96

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Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 358

I'm pretty sure it is a fold. At this level he could also be slow playing TT+ so I wouldn't discount them hands but yeah I think you are mainly drawing to your 8 outs or are already dead to a chop so I would fold

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01-19-2018 , 11:25 AM

Renekton

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Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 853

Your required equity is (1.92-.24)/(.33+.24+1.92+1.92) = 38%

It's a profitable call if he bluffs a few combos but I would fold without any info on villain

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01-19-2018 , 11:29 AM

Ojune

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Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 5,171

you never need 60% equity to call

the most you would need is 50% if villain is betting an infinite amount of money

I would probably call

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01-19-2018 , 11:29 AM

nonsimplesimon

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As played fold now.

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01-19-2018 , 11:32 AM

Scott7x

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Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 1,186

Fold. Would be an absolutely suicidal bluff if villain is bluffing here given the action. I don’t see that happening enough to justify a call. Plus you block most of his semibluffing hands if he does have some bluffs in his range it is a lot less likely now

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01-19-2018 , 11:41 AM

CC96

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Originally Posted by Ojune

you never need 60% equity to call

the most you would need is 50% if villain is betting an infinite amount of money

I would probably call

I totally missed that in the original post. OP you need to have a luck at your equity calculations again.

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01-19-2018 , 01:36 PM

JamesBJames

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1.68 / (1.68 + 2.73) = 38% equity

I wouldn't put 87o in villain's range but it's probably a fold regardless. I don't think a call is a big mistake at all, but you do need to find a handful of bluffs to justify it.

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01-19-2018 , 02:09 PM

.isolated

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I'd fold flop the first time lol. 2 players behind. No implied odds since it'll be a one card straight, we're likely behind to the pfr when he bets into 3 players on this **** flop for his range, and we're not drawing to the nuts anyhow.

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01-19-2018 , 02:38 PM

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Ojune

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<insert some logic here> therefore I think it's a pretty straightforward call on the flop.

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01-19-2018 , 02:52 PM

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.isolated

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Second time you engage me. Second time you can't provide reasoning when provided with some. Go for it, pro.

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01-19-2018 , 07:02 PM

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Feng Shui

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Join Date: Nov 2017 Posts: 595

I would fold the flop not closing the action , implied odds are poor if we hit as'well as the 4 strait is so obvious. And as isolated stated were not even drawing to the nutts. It seems clear were not ahead on the flop when Mp bets this board into 3 players. And BTN and BB can have all the sets and straits 2 pair on that board.

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