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10-25-2020 , 11:31 AM

DustyRugs

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V is 29 /19, he was raising his draws aggresively.

So what do you think?

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10-25-2020 , 11:54 AM

ZKesic

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You can bet flop bigger. Call the turn as played.

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10-25-2020 , 03:53 PM

Ceres

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I would c/fold turn. We block AQ, AK, AT, we don't block FDs but, well, it all comes down to your read then I guess.

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10-25-2020 , 04:13 PM

Hobbes91

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Join Date: Dec 2019 Posts: 417

We are deep, preflop can be bigger.

Our range is really strong on the flop, we can size up (50%+).

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10-25-2020 , 05:15 PM

DustyRugs

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Thanks a lot all, very insightful comments. @Ceres my thoughts exactly, in the end I decided to call I think I'm like a 60/40 percent fav against his range.

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10-25-2020 , 07:28 PM

mitsi

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Originally Posted by Ceres

I would c/fold turn. We block AQ, AK, AT, we don't block FDs but, well, it all comes down to your read then I guess.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

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10-26-2020 , 08:47 AM

DustyRugs

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Originally Posted by mitsi

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Why do you say that? We kinda block the NFDs too.

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10-26-2020 , 09:05 AM

Theguyonyourleft

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Originally Posted by DustyRugs

Why do you say that? We kinda block the NFDs too.

Don’t we unblock NFD’s if I’m reading the hand history correctly? I think that makes turn a call. If we had the combo of Aces with both NFD blockers then this deep it might be a fold ott if we had bet bigger otf.

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10-26-2020 , 09:38 AM

DustyRugs

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Originally Posted by Theguyonyourleft

I just mean it's less likely for v to have an ace overall. Yes that's why I called.

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10-26-2020 , 10:10 AM

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Franchise804

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Bigger on flop because of stack depth.

Turn is gross but we unblock flushdraws so call I guess.

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10-26-2020 , 08:45 PM

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stremba70

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It’s less likely v has an ace, but not less likely he has the ace of hearts or clubs. For example, if we count AK combos, we would normally have 16. Since we have aces, that leaves 8 — half as many. But if we were counting AhKx combos without reference to our hand, we’d count 4 combos. Looking at our hand, there’s still 4 combos — our hand does not make AhKx any less likely. Similarly for other Ax combos. Technically I guess we do block 2 AhAx combos, v can’t have AhAd or AhAs. But I think we can safely disregard that since he’d probably 5! PF if he had AA.

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10-26-2020 , 09:54 PM

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Ceres

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Originally Posted by mitsi

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Villain overbet shoves the best turn for their range with a slight nut adv. We have top pair and block the only value hand he might consider shoving that we beat, AQ.

By calling we're turning AAs into a bluffcatcher on a board villain can have sets, 2P and straights. On top of that we're playing a stake where we should overfold against naked aggression because that is how we beat players who don't bluff enough.

But yeah aces lol

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10-27-2020 , 11:31 PM

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aner0

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Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 3,664

check folding turn? smh... stop reading blackrain

ur 4bet sizing is shite, but if villain is a station it's fine
flop is ok, could go bigger
turn bet half pot

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10-28-2020 , 09:36 AM

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DustyRugs

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Originally Posted by aner0

check folding turn? smh... stop reading blackrain

ur 4bet sizing is shite, but if villain is a station it's fine
flop is ok, could go bigger
turn bet half pot

Ty, how much should it have been pre?

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10-28-2020 , 11:00 AM

#15

Ceres

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aner0 you do realise that's a 155bb cold shove ott?

I'm not against calling against a maniac, but even pio folds here sometimes.

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10-28-2020 , 11:48 AM

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aner0

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I mean i get your point, it's just when you say XF it sounds like youre advocating for checking with the intention of folding. But yeah to this sizing u just gotta think about villain, but we are unblocking every single combo draw and AQcc, KQcc so it's close.
I don't mind folding once it has gotten to this situation, but I much rather prefer betting small with close to range on this turn (and mainly folding to a jam)

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