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04-19-2018 , 04:30 PM

Snake-glory

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Join Date: Jul 2015 Posts: 959

Hey folks, what do you think about this hand? That guy who donks otf is a crazy maniac, that guy who c/r AI is 21/17, 249 hands, 0% c/r so far. Should I fold here or call? I'm afraid he is got 44, but maybe it's A4? I don't think he will push like this just with Ax of diamons. I'm not sure if call here is a good idea or not, but I think call is ok. Correct me please if I'm wrong.

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37933539

SB: $11.59 (231.8 bb)
BB: $2 (40 bb)
Hero (UTG): $5 (100 bb)
MP: $9.65 (193 bb)
CO: $5.27 (105.4 bb)
BTN: $7.93 (158.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A

Hero raises to $0.15, MP calls $0.15, CO folds, BTN calls $0.15, SB calls $0.13, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.75) A

(5 players)
SB checks, BB bets $0.36, Hero raises to $0.85, 2 folds, SB raises to $11.44 and is all-in, BB folds

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04-19-2018 , 04:56 PM

ldmariodl28

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Join Date: Sep 2017 Posts: 276

I don’t see any way you can fold here. There are 3 combos of 44. If he has it good for him. Other than that he could be shoving with A4 suites which there are only 1 combo of that, or bluffing with a flush draw. I would just call here. You are beating most of his range and have the equity to call.

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04-19-2018 , 04:56 PM

ThinMints7

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 185

I think we have to call. I don't like it, but I can't see folding T2 here. He can certainly flat 4/4 in SB, don't see him having A/4. FD could also be a possibility

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04-19-2018 , 05:08 PM

Feng Shui

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Join Date: Nov 2017 Posts: 595

I wouldn't be to happy but id call. It possible villain could have A4 and also possible they are trying to iso the maniac with some worse hands like AQ. It doesn't make much sense for the reg to play 44 this way with the maniac/fish. Id expect at'least some flats from 44 on the flop from the reg. Although i do expect to see 44 quite often i just think we will have enough equity to call.

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04-19-2018 , 05:12 PM

ThinMints7

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 185

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Originally Posted by Feng Shui

Good amount of equity and we're still alive.

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04-19-2018 , 05:16 PM

Feng Shui

grinder

Join Date: Nov 2017 Posts: 595

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Originally Posted by KyleMoho

Good amount of equity and we're still alive.

Ye vs 44 we have 21% equity still , i have certainly been in worse spots. But given ranges can be wider than just 44 our equity should increase.

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04-19-2018 , 05:22 PM

ThinMints7

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 185

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Originally Posted by Feng Shui

Ye vs 44 we have 21% equity still , i have certainly been in worse spots. But given ranges can be wider than just 44 our equity should increase.

Can you elaborate on what you meant when you said you don't see regs playing 4/4 this way? Do you think regs will fold 4/4 in sb even when getting a decent price?

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04-19-2018 , 05:27 PM

ldmariodl28

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Originally Posted by KyleMoho

Can you elaborate on what you meant when you said you don't see regs playing 4/4 this way? Do you think regs will fold 4/4 in sb even when getting a decent price?

In a MW pot, seems prettt standard to call 44 in the SB facing a 3bb open from EP.

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04-19-2018 , 05:43 PM

Feng Shui

grinder

Join Date: Nov 2017 Posts: 595

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Originally Posted by KyleMoho

Can you elaborate on what you meant when you said you don't see regs playing 4/4 this way? Do you think regs will fold 4/4 in sb even when getting a decent price?

No i just mean i expect some flats here from a reg on the flop rather than shoves with 44 , although maybe on the two tone board there happy to just stick it in vs draws and Ax and risk losing their customers.

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04-20-2018 , 07:30 AM

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ToiletBowler

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Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 1,144

Cold 3bet on the flop? Doesn’t look good.

Need 42% equity to call.

One combo of A4s and 3 combos of 44. Can add in Axdd and some combo draws to give us the equity needed. But I don’t think he does that enough.

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04-20-2018 , 09:18 AM

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simplelessons

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Originally Posted by ToiletBowler

We don't block Ad, this is a snap call.

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04-20-2018 , 11:05 AM

#12

Havick

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Join Date: Mar 2018 Posts: 395

Fist pump snap imo. As stated above, 44 means we're still alive. At 5nl, this turns out to be somewhere in the AJ, AQ, FD, A4, K4 range, more often than it's 44.

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04-21-2018 , 03:13 PM

#13

BPMaR

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Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 486

Call but your raise was too small make it $1.20 at least and insta call his shove.

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04-21-2018 , 03:23 PM

#14

BPMaR

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Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 486

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Originally Posted by simplelessons

We don't block Ad, this is a snap call.

Oh yeah How exciting it must be for sb to have Ad3d,Ad5d, on this flop
Also Ad4h,Ah4c,Ad4s, maybe even some K4s thinking hell get maniacs' money and UTGs' dead money vs his AQ,AJ,AT as long as UTG doesnt have AK,AA, or 44.

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04-21-2018 , 06:06 PM

#15

Zivermiver

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Join Date: Jun 2017 Posts: 85

This is a cristal clear call. Against an unknown. You are at the top of your range. Except for sets of AA/KK this is the best hand you can show up here (yeah and sometimes 44). If you start folding the top of your range to every shove villain can just bluff you off any hand. Hell he could even have K4s and say lets go I got 2 pair.

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04-22-2018 , 05:56 PM

#16

Snake-glory

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Join Date: Jul 2015 Posts: 959

Thank you guys for your opinions. Yeah, of course it's a call. Just wanted to hear some thoughts here.

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