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02-23-2018 , 07:55 AM
Hi all. He is 36/9 but only 11 hands. Should I 3bet AI otf or just call?




    Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37931690

    MP: $5 (100 bb)
    CO: $2.25 (45 bb)
    BTN: $11.76 (235.2 bb)
    SB: $5 (100 bb)
    BB: $5.32 (106.4 bb)
    Hero (UTG): $5.82 (116.4 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with K K
    Hero raises to $0.15, MP calls $0.15, 4 folds

    Flop: ($0.37) 4 T 4 (2 players)
    Hero bets $0.23, MP raises to $0.66



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    02-23-2018 , 08:00 AM
    Calling seems the better option when stacks are still deep in an openraised pot. He can actually have 4x with those stats. I think we will often see Tx, hearts and 4x. Raising and GII should certainly be fine but I think flatting is better. 36/9 also like to slowplay so maybe he has AA a small % of the time.
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    02-23-2018 , 08:47 AM
    Call will be good! i think he haven't 4 because you raise from utg, also he will be 4 bet you with QQ in standart so he rly can have TT here. Call and see another card, if he will do bet in a K = May be fold.
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    02-23-2018 , 09:15 AM
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    Should I 3bet AI otf or just call?
    3bet AI. Eliminates positional advantage and avoids scare/action killing cards hitting on the turn. Villain is unlikely to have us beat and probably not folding this board after raising.
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    02-23-2018 , 11:20 AM
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    Originally Posted by Mike MacIntosh
    Villain is unlikely to have us beat and probably not folding this board after raising.
    What information do you have to back this up? The 5NL population is generally more passive and under-bluffed than aggro, they usually just call with their draws. We need V to call with a lot of Tx and fold a few of his Ax flush draws to be any more than flipping and I don't think that we can make that assumption with the information we have. Calling and playing future streets defensively seems like a way more profitable option than overbet jamming vs an unknown.
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    02-23-2018 , 11:29 AM
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    Originally Posted by simplelessons
    What information do you have to back this up? The 5NL population is generally more passive and under-bluffed than aggro, they usually just call with their draws. We need V to call with a lot of Tx and fold a few of his Ax flush draws to be any more than flipping and I don't think that we can make that assumption with the information we have. Calling and playing future streets defensively seems like a way more profitable option than overbet jamming vs an unknown.
    +1 What he said, Smart guy
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    02-23-2018 , 12:57 PM
    I just called him. Turn Ace I c/c, river check/check. He showed AQo (no hearts)... Unusual play by loose-passive player.
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    02-23-2018 , 04:48 PM
    I'm just shipping here and pretty happy about it. Fish or not, what is he calling you with here that you're behind? TT and 54s maybe? I'll take my chances. A guy this passive call here with QQ/JJ, Tx, and any FD. He could even call you with AK and not believe you (have seen it happen). When you flat and the river bricks you're missing value. If he has a 4 and shoves a brick turn/river are you really folding anyway? Probably not
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