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02-13-2018 , 10:01 AM

AlvaroSan_

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Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37931326

Hero (BTN): $8.54 (170.8 bb)
SB: $6.47 (129.4 bb)
BB: $5.09 (101.8 bb)
UTG: $6.82 (136.4 bb)
MP: $13.42 (268.4 bb)
CO: $5.07 (101.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with A

UTG folds, MP raises to $0.15, CO folds, Hero raises to $0.45, SB folds, BB calls $0.40, MP calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.37) 9

(3 players)
BB checks, MP checks, Hero bets $0.80, BB calls $0.80, MP raises to $3, Hero raises to $8.09 and is all-in, BB folds, MP calls $5.09

Turn: ($18.35) 2

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($18.35) 5

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

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I don't know if my CBet was good, because I want some suited connector to hit their flush draws in the turn, but I am not happy of seeing stright draws completed in the turn. It was good? And, when my Cbet is raised, it is a good push? I think that he can only do that with AA, KK, QQ, or sets and straights... and with that I have 30% of equity.
What do you think?
The HJ is a 19, 19, 0 and 33% of check raise in 64 hands.

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02-13-2018 , 10:10 AM

nonsimplesimon

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nice hand.

might go a little bigger cb otf like 3/4 pot but 2/3 is ok.

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02-13-2018 , 10:18 AM

Mike MacIntosh

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I don't know if my CBet was good,

It was good.

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And, when my Cbet is raised, it is a good push?

Good shove. We have the nut flush draw and two overs in a 3bet pot.

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02-13-2018 , 07:04 PM

Ojune

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id check the flop

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02-13-2018 , 07:28 PM

.isolated

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02-13-2018 , 10:55 PM

Last Laugh

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Originally Posted by Ojune

id check the flop

Would you check call? And what about this flop discounts it from c-betting? Is it because it's a 3bet pot?

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02-14-2018 , 12:11 AM

sweetswing1

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I think checking the flop or cbetting is fine in this case.

edit: I just put the scenario into snowie and it agreed with me. it prefers a check over a bet slightly so either is fine.

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02-14-2018 , 03:36 AM

shynepo3

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Originally Posted by Last Laugh

Would you check call? And what about this flop discounts it from c-betting? Is it because it's a 3bet pot?

You want to x flop because u rarely have 55s, 77s, 99s as a 4 better pre, but meanwhile MP can have those - you end up having to play 170bbs with a flush draw against a set lol. U wouldn’t be check calling since ur in position.

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02-14-2018 , 03:50 AM

Risso

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Originally Posted by Last Laugh

Would you check call? And what about this flop discounts it from c-betting? Is it because it's a 3bet pot?

We're closing the action, so we take a free card with our equity. It's close between cbet/checking as they've mentioned but since we're 3 handed our equity is a lower compared to if we we're HU.

They also have more 2pair+ type of hands in their range on this board which makes a check better.

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02-14-2018 , 06:10 AM

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Ojune

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Originally Posted by Last Laugh

Would you check call? And what about this flop discounts it from c-betting? Is it because it's a 3bet pot?

It's a bad flop for our range and we need flushes in our check back range. Keeping worse Kx and Ax is great. We can always call turn and possibly win on the river against bluffs.

Don't be obessed with cbetting just because it's (massively) profitable. Checking is very profitable too.

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02-14-2018 , 10:00 AM

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AlvaroSan_

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Originally Posted by Ojune

It's a bad flop for our range and we need flushes in our check back range.

So, what could be our range of CBet in this flop? TT+? What about if we have the set? Or the straight and flush draws?

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02-14-2018 , 10:53 AM

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IClickButtons

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c/b, cbet would be better 100 bb eff

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02-14-2018 , 02:08 PM

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Ojune

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Originally Posted by AlvaroSan_

So, what could be our range of CBet in this flop? TT+? What about if we have the set? Or the straight and flush draws?

vulnerable ovp, draws (not just fd and oesd) mostly. dont think we should have any set. We should also bet nut flush draws and less vulnerable ovp.

basically we should cbet everything but not really or the other way around. hope that helps

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02-15-2018 , 10:23 AM

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Flpmethntsdlr

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I'm a fan of checking flop, MW.

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02-15-2018 , 04:51 PM

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AlvaroSan_

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Originally Posted by Ojune

vulnerable ovp, draws (not just fd and oesd) mostly. dont think we should have any set. We should also bet nut flush draws and less vulnerable ovp.

But you have said that we should have flushes in our checkback range, and that we have to bet flush draws and the nut flush draws. I have the nut flush draw and 2 overcards. Is this not enough?

Sorry I can't understand.

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