NL25, turn sizing
11-15-2017
, 04:39 PM
PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BTN: 107.8 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
SB: 193.52 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: 50.00, Hands: 2)
BB: 179.76 BB (VPIP: 27.78, PFR: 22.22, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 19)
UTG: 79.44 BB (VPIP: 43.24, PFR: 10.81, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 38)
MP: 103.68 BB (VPIP: 19.83, PFR: 17.24, 3Bet Preflop: 5.41, Hands: 119)
Hero (CO): 270.44 BB
SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 7
9
fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.48 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 1.48 BB
Flop: (5.36 BB, 2 players) 6
4 T
BB checks, Hero bets 1.64 BB, BB calls 1.64 BB
Turn: (8.64 BB, 2 players) A
BB checks, Hero ....
No reads from V but this Q is versus population overall.
What bet size do u prefer here?
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BTN: 107.8 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
SB: 193.52 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: 50.00, Hands: 2)
BB: 179.76 BB (VPIP: 27.78, PFR: 22.22, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 19)
UTG: 79.44 BB (VPIP: 43.24, PFR: 10.81, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 38)
MP: 103.68 BB (VPIP: 19.83, PFR: 17.24, 3Bet Preflop: 5.41, Hands: 119)
Hero (CO): 270.44 BB
SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 7
9 fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.48 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 1.48 BB
Flop: (5.36 BB, 2 players) 6
4 T BB checks, Hero bets 1.64 BB, BB calls 1.64 BB
Turn: (8.64 BB, 2 players) A
BB checks, Hero ....
No reads from V but this Q is versus population overall.
What bet size do u prefer here?
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11-15-2017
, 06:03 PM
11-15-2017
, 06:05 PM
I love me some turn overbet strat 
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Just like I commented in the other hand: IT DEPENDS ON YOUR RANGE! Nobody knows your range but you. All this takes is some math and knowledge of how to count combos.
I'd overbet this turn
edit: expanding farther:
This is not how to look at using overbets.
:Just like I commented in the other hand: IT DEPENDS ON YOUR RANGE! Nobody knows your range but you. All this takes is some math and knowledge of how to count combos.
I'd overbet this turn
edit: expanding farther:
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I also can't think of a value hand where we would over bet and expect to get called very often.
11-16-2017
, 01:40 AM
Hope u are willing to take a sec and inform me;
So I do wanna go big with my 44,66,TT... which is like 9 combos total..
Let say we make it 1.5 pot size OTT, which gives V 1.67/1 odds on a call.
That means we need to have 1,67 value combos on every 1 bluff.
9 value combos => ~6 bluff combos.
These 6 combos being 75s, 78s, 79s, 89s, KJs, QJs..
Seems right to me.. what do u think.
11-16-2017
, 03:36 PM
We'll agree to disagree. There are still strong hands in our range that can go for strong value. You can even switch hands in each range if you think it's a problem (omg balance!). There's something that's the exact same in each range in spite of the range that Alto listed. Finally, if you think that you're going to get exploited here considering the myriad of factors that come into play here and the size of the player pool at micro stakes, you're insane.
(omg balance!). There's something that's the exact same in each range in spite of the range that Alto listed. Finally, if you think that you're going to get exploited here considering the myriad of factors that come into play here and the size of the player pool at micro stakes, you're insane.
11-17-2017
, 08:05 AM
11-17-2017
, 02:54 PM
11-17-2017
, 04:27 PM
Just to throw an odd one out there: I base my sizing strategy, in part, on visibility on future streets, but I'm not implying because of a static/dynamic board
. Very rarely does this actually depend on my hand, but at times, it has to.
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If you bet this small he can defend with significantly more gutters (he'll have a lot flatting pre in BB) than on Q64.
He can also probably defend with even as weak as BDFD+overcard or even random overcards like KJo (way easier to have overcards on ten high than Q high flop).
He can also probably defend with even as weak as BDFD+overcard or even random overcards like KJo (way easier to have overcards on ten high than Q high flop).