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05-07-2021 , 06:14 AM

Ramius

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Villain is unk, so far he didnt made anything that would suggest he is fish, looks normal from stats, but never seen before. Hero defends a lot of small suited cards vs this preflop sizing, so in practice while flop may favour hero range in practice it's like 3 sets and 45s and a lot of gutshots and shitty draws (better ones 3bet a lot)

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.10/$0.25 - 6 players
Hand delivered by Upswing Poker

UTG: $25.35 (101 bb)
MP: $37.40 (150 bb)
CO: $26.28 (105 bb)
BU: $34.50 (138 bb)
SB: $22.90 (92 bb)
BB (Hero): $25.57 (102 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with 7♥ 5♥
UTG raises to $0.56, 4 players fold, Hero calls $0.31

Flop: ($1.22) 8♦ 4♥ 5♦ (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $0.82, [b][color=#C51F1F]Hero ?

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05-07-2021 , 06:32 AM

PROPOSITION_JOE

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this board smashes us, we have gutshot, pair, bdfd, cant ask for much more to put in a x/r and make his life difficult.

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05-07-2021 , 06:34 AM

Ramius

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Originally Posted by PROPOSITION_JOE

this board smashes us, we have gutshot, pair, bdfd, cant ask for much more to put in a x/r and make his life difficult.

I used quite wide ranges for both UTG and BB and crystal ball told me its near 50/50 equity wise on flop

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05-07-2021 , 06:38 AM

PROPOSITION_JOE

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Originally Posted by Ramius

I used quite wide ranges for both UTG and BB and crystal ball told me its near 50/50 equity wise on flop

sounds about right, typically as bb vs utg we dont get to do a lot of x/r giving how wide we are and how tight relatively utg is, these spots i always look to make sure im finding 20%+ of my combos as x/r's. this hand slots in perfectly.

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05-07-2021 , 06:42 AM

Ramius

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Originally Posted by PROPOSITION_JOE

BTW, what is your default flop sizing as UTG here? Guess in theory it should be a lot of checking, how bout 99-JJ?

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05-07-2021 , 06:29 PM

FutureInsights

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Originally Posted by Ramius

BTW, what is your default flop sizing as UTG here? Guess in theory it should be a lot of checking, how bout 99-JJ?

Depends on how strong my hand is. Might be looking at overpairs or strong Ax combos.

In theory, less checking, more cbetting (you are the caller, you did not 3bet). I have several sims that cbet 65% or more of entire range.

Here, you can call or raise. I do around 50/50. That is a wet board, and villain needs protection. If he is over cbetting, that is a leak.

In this situation, I prefer a call.

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05-07-2021 , 06:58 PM

TakeItiletyou

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Solver x/r only 10% of range and IDK why. In game it would have been slam dunk x/r for me. Your combo is pure call.

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05-07-2021 , 07:39 PM

21Outer

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Originally Posted by TakeItiletyou

Solver x/r only 10% of range and IDK why. In game it would have been slam dunk x/r for me. Your combo is pure call.

Same, x/r here always for me.

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05-07-2021 , 08:42 PM

Ramius

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Originally Posted by TakeItiletyou

Solver x/r only 10% of range and IDK why. In game it would have been slam dunk x/r for me. Your combo is pure call.

Solver cr around 10% couse hero value range is around 6%+ some FD's/GS+BDFD

This is how hand played out
PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.10/$0.25 - 6 players
Hand delivered by Upswing Poker

UTG: $25.35 (101 bb)
MP: $37.40 (150 bb)
CO: $26.28 (105 bb)
BU: $34.50 (138 bb)
SB: $22.90 (92 bb)
BB (Hero): $25.57 (102 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with 7♥ 5♥
UTG raises to $0.56, 4 players fold, Hero calls $0.31

Flop: ($1.22) 8♦ 4♥ 5♦ (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $0.82, Hero raises to $3.20, UTG calls $2.38

Turn: ($7.62) 5♣ (2 players)
Hero bets $5.20, UTG raises to $21.59 (all-in), Hero calls $16.39

River: ($50.80) A♥ (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $50.80 (Rake: $2)

Showdown:
UTG shows T♦ T♥ (two pair, Tens and Fives)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 80%, Flop: 66%, Turn: 5%, River: 0%)

BB (Hero) shows 7♥ 5♥ (three of a kind, Fives)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 20%, Flop: 34%, Turn: 95%, River: 100%)

BB (Hero) wins $48.80
Villain turn shove is awfull or you can find reasons to play this way?

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05-08-2021 , 06:59 PM

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FutureInsights

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Originally Posted by Ramius

Some players here do not put you on a 5 with the raise. Yes, they will shove with really wet board. I had trips, and someone tried to bluff me off with KTo (both 50nl and 200nl).

Someone with an overpair will call, though the smart ones won't shove. That shove should have been on the flop when you raised.

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05-09-2021 , 05:19 AM

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Ramius

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Originally Posted by FutureInsights

That shove should have been on the flop when you raised.

At this SPR rather only 3bet flop, guess that vs reasonably sized 3bet i have to let my hand go readles?

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05-09-2021 , 05:51 AM

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ionutd

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should size up turn, at least go pot
otherwise nh
solver isn't xr much because utg is betting some 30-40% freq for that sizing
in reality they bet more like 50%+ and they don't defend too well either and at that point any sort of pair+bd is game to xr a lot
you prob see a good 30% xr freq vs a rl opp at 25nl

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05-09-2021 , 06:15 AM

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rickroll

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if you aren't prepared to go to the wall on a flop like with vs an utg raise you shouldn't be calling pre

snap x/r flop and gii on the turn

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