PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.10/$0.25 - 4 players
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UTG: $31.20 (125 bb)
BU: $25.25 (101 bb)
SB: $17.75 (71 bb)
BB (Hero): $28.71 (115 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with J♣ A♣
1 fold, BTN raises to $0.75, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets to $3, BTN calls $2.25

Flop: ($6.10) J♦ 4♥ 9♦ (2 players)
Hero bets $4.40, BTN calls $4.40

Turn: ($14.90) Q♥ (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $4.70, BB (Hero) folds

Total pot: $14.90 (Rake: $0.67)
BU wins $14.23

Villain seems to be reg i dont know yet

Looks like too many semi bluffs in villains range and not enough made hands that beat you to fold (especially given the large flop c-bet). I wonder if x/jamming this turn would be good at micros because their gonna bet their high equity draws too often in low spr, might not be tho

i was close to barrel shove turn, but i was finishing session, so reducing variance

This mindset isn't great but maybe understandable if you haven't played for long.

secondary qestion is how many aq combos villain is supposed to float flop with? I assume he never 4bet any

Vs this size I can’t imagine villain is supposed to float any AQ besides AdQd and AhQh. Maybe AdQx.

i run this hand in eqiulab giving villain very generous 15% calling range 44-10, 45s+, huge chunk of 1 gappers, ajo-aqo,k9s-kqs, most suited aces, result was that around 30% of villain range is crushing us on turn(top pair+hands), another 30% were various flush draws with changing equity, very few hands that would go to turn we are dominating, TBH, is villain really stabbing turn with 30% bet having good draw and pot odds to ALWAYS call shove over this small stab instea of just shoving his draw?

CRAI

We block AQ and unblock all flushdraws

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And unblock 44,99, q9s, t8s and kts, in my pool regs dont raise flop with sets in 3bpt, or at least not such vs large flop cbet

I don’t think we should see a flop with an SPR of 4, hit TPTK, bet 3/4 pot, and fold it on this turn. V has plenty of high equity draws here that I think we have to continue. I don’t think I like jamming, but x/c seems perfectly reasonable and reevaluate OTR.


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We want to deny equity vs villain's draws. We also have so much money invested already.

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Good point. Maybe a crai is best after all.


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No one, even in my coaching lessons, my pool, live play, whatever, is jamming here with the 2nd pair on the turn. For all we know, they could have AA and KK playing slow. We had top pair on the flop, we now have 2nd pair TK on the turn.

I guess a call isn't bad, but it usually goes x/x on the turn, especially if villain is trapping.

About 50% of pool at 25nl folds this spot. Almost 100% of pool at 50nl folds this spot.


What we have is a merged flop, which works better with merged hands. You might look up some A9s or lower pocket pairs making the bet (position is everything), but in my pool, my TPTK hands are very rarely being bluffed, and villain ends up having the goods. Its just a pair.

a9s to stab fold turn make sense, couse villain know he is dead if check shoved, and he might be in exactly shitty spot as hero is now if he only checks and hero shoves river and he have a9 in wrong suits, but it's just need villain with big enaugh ballz and balanced in his game enaugh to do this kind of play with merged range and hand that have like 30% turn equity. Another crappy hand that comes to mind stabbing turn are baby hearts draw, thing is that turn cr line as 3bettor is not something uncommon, if i had top set or kthh here myself i would check shove turn, propably same with aa, you dont have to be gto wizard to mix turn check shoves with turn cbets having so many good hands yourself

Check folding this turn seems insanely nitty. Villain has so many floats!

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This is hand from another thread i didnt post result yet, this hand was against good loose reg, same 1/3 stab on scary turn

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.10/$0.25 - 6 players
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UTG: $25.35 (101 bb)
MP: $48.43 (194 bb)
CO: $18.36 (73 bb)
BU: $25.13 (101 bb)
SB (Hero): $25.00 (100 bb)
BB: $25.25 (101 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with T♣ T♥
3 players fold, BTN raises to $0.62, Hero 3-bets to $2.60, 1 fold, BTN calls $1.98

Flop: ($5.45) 8♦ 3♣ 4♣ (2 players)
Hero bets $3.80, BTN calls $3.80

Turn: ($13.05) J♣ (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $3.99, Hero calls $3.99

River: ($21.03) Q♥ (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $14.74 (all-in), Hero calls $14.61 (all-in)

Total pot: $50.25 (Rake: $2)

Showdown:
BU shows 6♣ 5♣ (a flush, Jack high)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 21%, Flop: 53%, Turn: 89%, River: 100%)

SB (Hero) shows T♣ T♥ (a pair of Tens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 79%, Flop: 47%, Turn: 11%, River: 0%)

BU wins $48.25

I think those spots aree more similar than they may look, funny part, everybody on this hand was commenting that call is crazy (it was!) but is this spot really any diffrent? we get exaclty same river decision, are we calling our aj on blank deuce as i called on more or less blank Q in earlier hand?

Yes, we should be bowing out of hand (I have kicked myself for the same reasons in certain hands, have learnt my lesson), when J and Q show up. In this case, villain had open ender and flush draw. For them to call 3bet is a bit of gamble.

However, they might have had JJ and AQs. Both of which beat you as well, and might float the flop. So when that J shows up, its checking time. IMO. Definitely fold to shove.

As stated above, that is a merged flop. It is better for caller, unless the mergness is higher so that our TT make better play (as in your first hand, TT better than AJ).

The flush coming in makes these completely different spots imo.

it's similar number of flushes in 2nd hand given we block a lot of them with tc vs 8 str8 combos in first one, in 2nd hand Q adds 1 combo of qjdd as well as acq that may not even always valuebet, (my line looks like clubless overpair never folding at this spr)
Someone mantioned jjj for villain is possible, no it's not against decent nl25 stars reg in those pos's, same for qqq

Hand 1 too nitty. Easy call and evaluate rivers

Hand 2. Lead the turn. You likely have best hand and you have a hi club. AP fold river