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Nl25 2pair vs riverraise Nl25 2pair vs riverraise

10-17-2017 , 12:39 PM
Hello,
villian unknown

How often do you see Villian ch/r with Ax worse than A9,Ak, A5,1 combo A6,?
In the situation it was hard to fold and i felt bluffed. Good fold?

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $23.95 (VPIP: 13.79, PFR: 6.90, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 29)
SB: $25.61 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
BB: $25.56 (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 28.57, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
Hero (UTG): $34.12
MP: $10.64
CO: $25.00 (VPIP: 26.92, PFR: 19.23, 3Bet Preflop: 13.04, Hands: 52)

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has A 6

Hero raises to $0.75, fold, fold, fold, fold, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.60, 2 players) 6 K 5
BB checks, Hero bets $1.06, BB calls $1.06

Turn: ($3.72, 2 players) 9
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($3.72, 2 players) A
BB checks, Hero bets $2.50, BB raises to $8.00, fold

BB wins $8.33
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10-17-2017 , 08:05 PM
Not betting flop, UTG open is questionable given other players look relatively unknown , AP folding villain likely knows Ace is better for your range than his and thus is check raising for value here OTR with flushes etc knowing you will likely bet for some thin-ish value and potentially call the raise
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10-18-2017 , 04:56 AM
I fold pre but no problem with opening this. Not betting flop either. AP fold is good.
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10-18-2017 , 05:24 AM
Short stacked MP probably a fish which have position on us.

CO with 13% 3-bet.

And seems like there is no fishes on blinds.

I'm folding pre too. I think opening in this spot somewhat breakeven for most winning regulars.

Now, otf, I'm def c-betting. Too low pair and zero backdoors for pot controlling this combo. I'm going for c-bet/3-bet as a bluff when get raised.

Also you want some 6x in your c-betting range and those of them without backdoors are perfect for that.

OTT default check on this terrible for 2-barrel card.

OTR is very depending on player pool tendencies. But I think exploitative it's a fold but GTO wise it's probably call since you super high in your range.
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10-18-2017 , 06:56 AM
I'm not sure how much the flop bet really achieves. Yeah, we're probably ridic capped here, but BB has it almost always so fold.
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10-18-2017 , 11:00 AM
PF's standard for me. I open all suited Ax's UTG as a default.

I'm kind of indifferent on the flop bet vs. check. This is a spot where I'll check some amount of 5x, 6x, QQ-77. Maybe I'll check back something like KTs occasionally?

This is always something I've struggled with, but the lower we get in that range, the more of the deck we hate OTT. QsQc can check OTF because our hand has good SDV and we really only dislike aces, but As6s has a little less SDV, hates half of the deck, and so wants to bet more frequently, right? I'm not really sure whether that means we bet this 10% of the time, 90% of the time, or something in between, but that's how I've always thought about stuff like this.

Turn check makes sense to me, bet/folding river seems good.
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10-18-2017 , 06:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lovelessRAGE
Now, otf, I'm def c-betting. Too low pair and zero backdoors for pot controlling this combo. I'm going for c-bet/3-bet as a bluff when get raised.

Also you want some 6x in your c-betting range and those of them without backdoors are perfect for that.
Don't we prefer c-betting 6x hands with backdoors as they are more likely to turn into good bluffing spots on the turn and 3 streets of value type hands on the river?
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10-18-2017 , 07:22 PM
I'm mostly folding this pre but as someone else said opening A6s here is fine. Don't see much point in betting the flop. I probably just go into showdown mode but obviously the river bet was justified when you improve.
River fold is good. Villain can be pretty wide flatting out of the bb. There's some worse two pairs that he could play like this but far more flushes/straights/sets.
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10-19-2017 , 05:16 AM
Opening all Axs UTG, but will definetily look into this cause lovelessRAGE made a valid point.

cbetting flop AP.
checking 6x with backdoors is better since we have room to improve with it. With A6, there's really no good turns for our hand....

AP, fold river imo...
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10-20-2017 , 02:14 AM
Exactly, we have very little good turn cards so we want to reduce the postturn play.
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10-20-2017 , 09:09 PM
If villain folds a lot I like the flop bet. You need ot deny equity. Easy fold river, player at this limit rarely raise rivers as a bluff.
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